Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Mar 07, 2013 6:34:48 am PST #13981 of 30001
hwæt

If we do have illustrated threads, I would strongly lobby for only registered users being able to see the images.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 07, 2013 6:38:00 am PST #13982 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

In theory I like the idea of an image thread, but do we have any idea how that will affect site bandwidth/speed? B.org loading quickly even when the rest of the internet has slowed to a crawl has always been a big feature in my book.


Jessica - Mar 07, 2013 6:39:58 am PST #13983 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If we do have illustrated threads, I would strongly lobby for only registered users being able to see the images.

Oh yes, I like this plan.

I wouldn't mind images, but I do love our clean uncluttered text look.

I'm assuming it's not like Goatse? Or any other link most people would regret clicking?

The link Calli posted is completely safe for work, but will probably make more sense if you've seen other Harlem Shake videos so you know what she's responding to. (Short version: it's a terrible song that's become a stupid dance video meme that appropriates a real dance from Actual Harlem and turns it into a thing ignorant white people do on YouTube.)


askye - Mar 07, 2013 6:42:19 am PST #13984 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

For comparison this is the real Harlem Shake [link]


Jessica - Mar 07, 2013 6:46:29 am PST #13985 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

(The only thing MHP says that I disagree with is the bit about seeing the real Harlem Shake on the subway. Ten years ago, yes, but the current crop of guys doing this are kind of unfortunate. I give them money but mostly because I hope they'll spend it on dance lessons.)


erikaj - Mar 07, 2013 6:58:14 am PST #13986 of 30001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

Always learn a lot from MHP. Sometimes she is too nice, though. Even the comments were interesting(although I don't know why anytime a woman is being serious, some guy has to call her ugly. But then, I think she's cute.)


msbelle - Mar 07, 2013 7:10:02 am PST #13987 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

WAH - good stuff is now blocked from work. do not like.


brenda m - Mar 07, 2013 7:13:02 am PST #13988 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I do wish MHP would have gone a little more Shake 101 on this. She's great at explaining why it matters that what is all over the interwebs is not the actual Harlem Shake, and the history that undergirds it, and she has a lot of folks confirming "nope, that's not it", but for the ignorant, I'm still not really clear what's different. (Beyond the obvious fact that the people she has on are much i better than all the thrown together vids.)


Laura - Mar 07, 2013 7:19:40 am PST #13989 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I'm curious beyond curious as to what is up.

They may want to discuss your shower routines.


§ ita § - Mar 07, 2013 7:25:37 am PST #13990 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My primary exposure to the Harlem Shake meme has not been ignorant white people but ignorant black people--there's no racial dibs on that--it's ridic popular in Jamaica, and I think to this date I've only seen one white group's video (SPN cast and crew)--the other 20 or so instantiations were all Jamaican and Mexican.

The idea that there's a Harlem Shake meme that has nothing to do with the Harlem Shake dance or dancers isn't that world-shattering to me, but I may perhaps have been over appropriated into numbness. I have no idea what responsibility the media bears in this, since I've only seen the links and mentions in personal blogs. And if that they decides on a name, well, it's over. The media will never right that ship.

Matt, are you asking about the page loading time of all of b.org or image threads? It would depend on how it's coded--a page designed without tables that has accurate image attributes can render all the text before the images fill in, so nothing will be lost. However, you need to consider the time required to determine the image sizes before generating the HTML. And since I'm not suggesting images be hosted here (I think today's landscape has a lot of corporate servers where hotlinking is not an issue--you can embed an image from gawker or tumblr without causing anyone any pain, and sites like photobucket or tinypic are specifically designed for that purpose) there's no way to predict or control how long it will take them to render.

Our code is decently designed that the top of the page can start rendering before the bottom is fully loaded, and that's the best thing you can do to not be dragged down by the slowest common denominator.

Unrelatedly, why do we still "drop it like it's hot" so often? Have we learnt nothing about heat insulation in the past twenty years?