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flea - Mar 03, 2013 7:00:28 am PST #13462 of 30001
information libertarian

I read a bunch of the Oz series as a child, and they're very formulaic. They're not any worse than a lot of long kids' series (OMG the Boxcar Children), but I can see them not being a favorite of librarians.

OTOH with the right artist they would make for a GREAT graphic novel series for today. They're vintage steampunk!


Theodosia - Mar 03, 2013 7:03:03 am PST #13463 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Didn't Matilda's wand actually say 'OZ' on it? That's definitely educator-fail then.

Having recently watched a documentary on Baum (thank you, Smithsonian Channel) I was surprised to find out that Baum was related to some fairly prominent suffragettes, so the prominence of young female protagonists with agency in his books is not a coincidence. I wonder how much that played into librarian-disapproval, because the books aren't exactly endorsing girls staying home to become housewives....


Tom Scola - Mar 03, 2013 7:05:01 am PST #13464 of 30001
hwæt

Actually, Marvel Comics has been doing a well-regarded series of Oz adaptations.


JZ - Mar 03, 2013 7:09:33 am PST #13465 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, I know she's *in* books, but her origin is definitely the movies; after that, the novelizations and the expanded universe and so on and so forth. But Leia-the-book-character would never have existed without Leia-the-movie-character coming first, so (in my brain anyway) she's firmly slotted as Movie Character, not Book.


Stephanie - Mar 03, 2013 7:13:17 am PST #13466 of 30001
Trust my rage

I read non stop as a child but had no idea who Ozma was until JZ explained. As I remember, we had some Oz books at home and started one but didn't really like them. Although I would never have gotten Princess Leia from her adorable costume.


DavidS - Mar 03, 2013 7:25:44 am PST #13467 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Actually, Marvel Comics has been doing a well-regarded series of Oz adaptations.

Yeah, those are pretty great and are both faithful to the originals, but bring a lot of the artist's own vision to the stories. Recommended.


Amy - Mar 03, 2013 7:30:19 am PST #13468 of 30001
Because books.

I never read an Oz book at all. Once I'd seen the movie, and realized that the books were a little different, I had no interest in *another* Oz. So I didn't know who Ozma was, either.


Steph L. - Mar 03, 2013 7:33:06 am PST #13469 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I never read an Oz book at all. Once I'd seen the movie, and realized that the books were a little different, I had no interest in *another* Oz. So I didn't know who Ozma was, either.

Me, too. Also, "Wicked."


Typo Boy - Mar 03, 2013 7:35:35 am PST #13470 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

When I lived in Huntington Beach, the HB main library had every OZ book.

The Soldier is a splendid man when marching on parade.
And when he meets the enemy he never is afraid.
He rights the wrongs of nations, his country's flag defends.
The foe he'll fight with great delight, but seldom ever fights his friends!


-t - Mar 03, 2013 7:40:57 am PST #13471 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I read all (or many, anyway) the Oz books as a kid because my grandmother had them and that was part of visiting her, reading the Oz books. I don't think I've actually seen the movie all the way through, just clips.