No. You're missing the point. The design of the thing is functional. The plan is not to shoot you. The plan is to get the girl. If there's no girl, then the plan, well, is like the room.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


aurelia - Jul 20, 2012 1:58:53 pm PDT #14871 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

bonny, that is utterly lovely. I teared up reading that.

Yes. This.

I countered with "pity the poor people in the crossfire"

Yeah, dark theater filled with smoke... it would take a Jason Bourne type for that to end well.


Jesse - Jul 20, 2012 2:21:52 pm PDT #14872 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Some people are really great. Edit: The bikers I mean, of course, not any shooters.


Ginger - Jul 20, 2012 2:22:09 pm PDT #14873 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Hubby just suggested that if there had been someone with a concealed weapon in the audience, then it wouldn't have been so bad.

He was in head-to-toe Kevlar, so someone shooting from the audience would have had to make a perfect head shot in a dark, smoke-filled theater.


meara - Jul 20, 2012 2:22:51 pm PDT #14874 of 30001

I usually end up seeing things here first! Usually look to Wash Post and NyTimes for articles once I hear something happened. I have the local free paper's blog (Slog) and a local neughborhood blog that get me pretty much all the local news I need. I never read the Seattle Times.


Zenkitty - Jul 20, 2012 2:27:42 pm PDT #14875 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

He was in head-to-toe Kevlar, so someone shooting from the audience would have had to make a perfect head shot in a dark, smoke-filled theater.

Yeah. Without shooting any of the terrified people trying to get away.

It baffles me that I, a person who has never even fired a gun, can comprehend the logistics of this, yet someone who is so in love with guns cannot see how another gun in the hands of some random would-be self-styled hero in that situation would make things even worse.


Jesse - Jul 20, 2012 2:31:08 pm PDT #14876 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

A nice piece about Batman and what happened: [link]


Connie Neil - Jul 20, 2012 2:34:48 pm PDT #14877 of 30001
brillig

There are some arguments I know not to pursue. After 26+ years, some things aren't going to change and some things should be left to wither on the vine.


Zenkitty - Jul 20, 2012 2:35:17 pm PDT #14878 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I guess I am seriously overwhelmed. I'm just sitting here, randomly breaking into tears, and I can't do anything.

My sister just called me -- I'm her local news source. Whenever she hears about anything happening, she calls me to find out what's going on. So I just related the whole story to her. Now I just want to go back to bed.


Amy - Jul 20, 2012 2:41:31 pm PDT #14879 of 30001
Because books.

It baffles me that I, a person who has never even fired a gun, can comprehend the logistics of this, yet someone who is so in love with guns cannot see how another gun in the hands of some random would-be self-styled hero in that situation would make things even worse.

Even without the smoke, how many civilians who are relaxed and anticipating a movie are going to have the wherewithal to react effectively enough to make that kind of shot? Not many is what I'm thinking. Not without getting hit him/herself or accidentally shooting someone else.


le nubian - Jul 20, 2012 2:43:35 pm PDT #14880 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

even most well-trained professionals are not going to expect a shooting in a movie theater of all places. when you are caught off-guard, it makes accurate assessment of the circumstances and how to deal with the perp more difficult.