We have to see the chimp playing hockey! That's hilarious! The ice is so slippery, and, and monkeys are all irrational. We have to see this!

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:24:17 am PDT #11669 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Decision was 5-4 on the mandate.


le nubian - Jun 28, 2012 5:24:41 am PDT #11670 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

damn that was too close.


le nubian - Jun 28, 2012 5:25:46 am PDT #11671 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

On my twitter feed they said the vote was 6-3


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:26:21 am PDT #11672 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Here's why it is confusing: The Court holds that the mandate violates the Commerce Clause, but that doesn't matter b/c there are five votes for the mandate to be constitutional under the taxing power.


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:26:43 am PDT #11673 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

6-3 might be another vote on a different question (there were four).


le nubian - Jun 28, 2012 5:28:36 am PDT #11674 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

subtleties and nuance will not penetrate my brain today


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:29:11 am PDT #11675 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsberg & Breyer voted would have upheld it under the commerce clause and/or as a tax, Roberts only agreed in so far as it is a tax - so he really did save this thing by a hair.


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:29:42 am PDT #11676 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Again quoting: In opening his statement in dissent, Kennedy says: "In our view, the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety."


le nubian - Jun 28, 2012 5:30:08 am PDT #11677 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

OMG Sparky.


sarameg - Jun 28, 2012 5:33:44 am PDT #11678 of 30001

I actively dislike chat. It's just not my favorite medium of communication. I'll use it with my brother sometimes, but just...no. Not my thing.