Mal: Does she understand that? River: She understands. She doesn't comprehend.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Dec 02, 2011 3:32:06 am PST #9537 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

In my admittedly limited experience, transgender children don't want to be called "it" either. My teenage trans cousin doesn't seem particularly bothered by male pronouns - I figure if he ever decides he wants to be addressed as a woman, he'll say so. But growing up with an assigned gender certainly hasn't held him back in that sense.


Strix - Dec 02, 2011 3:45:49 am PST #9538 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Isn't "ze" a common (well, maybe not common, but the accepted) gender-neutral pronoun prefered by some cisgendered persons?

Wouldn't it be better to use that or just...ask? "Do you prefer he or she? Would you rather be called Bob or Barbara?"

Or in an article, just use "The child/children" instead of s/he? It's not that hard.


Amy - Dec 02, 2011 3:56:48 am PST #9539 of 30001
Because books.

I'm worried I am leaking a small amount of amniotic fluid. baby is almost 33 weeks so I'm not super worried but I really want him to stay in there for a few more weeks.

I'd call the doctor today, just to be safe, Stephanie.


Stephanie - Dec 02, 2011 4:07:27 am PST #9540 of 30001
Trust my rage

Thanks, Amy. I just got of the phone with her and she said "well, just watch it and call if there ate changes" so I guess I'll do that. Sort of a distraction, though.


Stephanie - Dec 02, 2011 4:08:21 am PST #9541 of 30001
Trust my rage

hippocampus - Dec 02, 2011 4:13:34 am PST #9542 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

There are actually a number of species of weta, about 70. (I'm especially fond of the tusked weta. Cue Fleetwood Mac.) Sixteen of them are considered to be at risk. There are about ten giant weta species; the largest used to occur all over the North Island, now it's found only on a small offshore island.

Thanks BT

{{Bonnie}}

Totally understandable Sarameg.


Jessica - Dec 02, 2011 4:51:37 am PST #9543 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Wouldn't it be better to use that or just...ask?

In my cousin's case, he uses male pronouns when referring to himself in writing, so I do as well.

In the case of the Jezebel article, I don't think it's oppressive or inappropriately limiting to call a baby girl a baby girl. If the baby girl learns to talk and tells everyone she's a boy and they've had it wrong for two years, then you switch. You still don't get to call human beings it.


ChiKat - Dec 02, 2011 4:53:50 am PST #9544 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

It's not morbid or weird to me. You knew him, you loved him. And you honored that.

This. Very much this.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2011 4:54:41 am PST #9545 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

my resistance to Tom Cruise and Yet Another Mission Impossible movie

If it's anything in either direction, I saw a clip of a fight scene with the female lead, and she was absolutely awful. Having recently watched Knight and Day and finding myself wanting to purge myself in fire to remove the memory, I feel pretty good with my decision to say away.

Yeah, I think it's pretty common that no one wants to be "it". And that an Afghan toddler being raised in prison because her mother was jailed for being a rape victim? Okay, she has bigger problems than being called "it", but *much* bigger problems than being identified as the wrong gender. Along the lines of being treated like an object, amongst others.

The baby? Clearly not transgendered. Give her time. The poster? Quite possibly up their own ass.


Hil R. - Dec 02, 2011 5:02:28 am PST #9546 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

You still don't get to call human beings it.

I agree, but I wonder how/when this developed. I've definitely seen characters in Victorian novels referring to young children as "it" with no one questioning it -- I think it was Wuthering Heights where I noticed it constantly, but I've definitely seen it in other books from that period, too.

My grandmother thought it was rude to refer to someone with any pronoun when that person was present. If the person is in front of you, you refer to that person by name. So, like, if I was telling my sister to give something to my grandmother, I couldn't say "Give this to her." It had to be "Give this to Oma."