The whole earth may be sucked into Hell, and you want my help 'cause your girlfriend's a big ho?

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Dec 01, 2011 11:59:21 am PST #9480 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

a coworker who believes that crate-training for more that a few hours a day is cruel and no life for a dog

Depends on the dog, really. Absolutes don't really apply.

I will say that puppies can be difficult: I've only ever adopted adult dogs. My sister is spending a lot of money right now paying for a dog-walker to handle the puppy during the work day. Six-month-old golden retriever pups need a lot of exercise, yo.

So Sue, if you really want a dog, consider a rescue. They're often housebroken adult dogs whose owners just couldn't keep them for some reason. I saw a pair of lovely GSDs at an adoption day once who were clearly well-cared-for, but their owner was a meth dealer and had gone to prison.


brenda m - Dec 01, 2011 12:08:00 pm PST #9481 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

on the brighter side (literally!) the other evening I was walking home from the grocery and a man was walking his dog (little fluffy white one - toy poodle, perhaps) and the dog's collar had a light on it. Very small, very bright - with it getting dark so early, it struck me as a really good idea.

Darby's night-time look: [link]

So Sue, if you really want a dog, consider a rescue. They're often housebroken adult dogs whose owners just couldn't keep them for some reason.

Highly recommend. There are lots of dogs in the rescue system for reasons that have nothing to do with any behavior or trauma or whatever you might worry about. (Especially now, sad to say, with so many people losing homes and incomes.)


Amy - Dec 01, 2011 12:08:06 pm PST #9482 of 30001
Because books.

So Sue, if you really want a dog, consider a rescue. They're often housebroken adult dogs whose owners just couldn't keep them for some reason.

This is what my parents have done for years, and they've had really lovely dogs. Puppies are a lot of work, not just in housebreaking, but in socializing and behavior training, and it takes a lot of time and patience to do it right.


Toddson - Dec 01, 2011 12:08:40 pm PST #9483 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I was channel surfing last night and PBS had something about cats and dogs. There was a segment on a shelter that does personality assessments on both animals and humans to get a better match. Seemingly, it's pretty effective - they have a much lower rate of people returning animals that don't work out.


Consuela - Dec 01, 2011 12:15:42 pm PST #9484 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

There was a segment on a shelter that does personality assessments on both animals and humans to get a better match.

That's pretty much what the GSD people did with me: one of them came to my house for an hour-long interview and to check out the space. And after I was approved, there were still dogs they wouldn't recommend for me, because the dog's temperament didn't work with my lifestyle.


Ginger - Dec 01, 2011 12:18:42 pm PST #9485 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Mr Peabody still has some issues from the abuse, but he was perfectly housetrained and knew some commands.


Cashmere - Dec 01, 2011 12:31:59 pm PST #9486 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

a coworker who believes that crate-training for more that a few hours a day is cruel and no life for a dog

DH used to believe that crating a dog was inhumane. Dogs are den animals. Mac kept going into her kennel right up until the end of her life when she was scared, tired or just wanted to get away. It was like her own room.

I'm not saying keeping a dog in a cage 24/7 is a good thing but crating them while you're gone will go a long way to keeping them out of trouble and safe. They sleep for long periods of time when we're not there anyway.


Sue - Dec 01, 2011 12:53:46 pm PST #9487 of 30001
hip deep in pie

So Sue, if you really want a dog, consider a rescue. They're often housebroken adult dogs whose owners just couldn't keep them for some reason. I saw a pair of lovely GSDs at an adoption day once who were clearly well-cared-for, but their owner was a meth dealer and had gone to prison.

Yeah, that was always kind of the plan. I always assumed it would be easier to deal with an adult dog when I work all day. It's more that since my coworker's dog had puppies, the opportunity is just there for the asking. I just really want to do right by a dog, even if it means not having one.


Hil R. - Dec 01, 2011 1:06:40 pm PST #9488 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm thinking about volunteering with Big Brothers Big Sisters. Anybody have any experience with that?


Sheryl - Dec 01, 2011 1:06:43 pm PST #9489 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Nova has finished applying her fur to my sweater(that's what I get for wearing black) and left the room. Luna is still lounging on the back of the sofa. I think these two are as much as I can handle at the moment.