Buffy: You tossed that vamp like he was a... little teeny vamp. Riley: You wanna go again? C'mon. I bet this place is just teeming with aerodynamic vampires.

'Help'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Nov 26, 2011 1:31:11 pm PST #8635 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Can you be taught to be creative?

My theory is that most kids don't need to be taught to be creative, instead we tend to stiffle it. Little kids can be wildly creative.

I had the most fantastic morning, and it even involved a Buffista!

Yay! It really was awesome.


Burrell - Nov 26, 2011 1:31:45 pm PST #8636 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Happy birthday DJ!


Consuela - Nov 26, 2011 1:35:17 pm PST #8637 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Tom, those are very cute shoes! You are a great uncle.

I just found something marvelous on my flist: this political vid -- the Occupy movement set to Bruce Springsteen. It's fantastic and I hope it goes viral.


Nora Deirdre - Nov 26, 2011 1:36:30 pm PST #8638 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

We just put up curtains in our living room- they are curtains we've had for years, we just needed to get two $3.99 curtain rods and get the installed. It makes a huge difference!

I am also making a turkey dinner with all the trimmings, because I need leftovers! Also, hopefully smonster will be coming by to partake.


beekaytee - Nov 26, 2011 1:38:24 pm PST #8639 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

My theory is that most kids don't need to be taught to be creative, instead we tend to stiffle it

Flowers are red

Green leaves are green

There is no need to see flowers

Any other way Than the way they always have been seen.

t /Harry Chapin


smonster - Nov 26, 2011 1:50:56 pm PST #8640 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Also, hopefully smonster will be coming by to partake.

Hell yes, smonster is.

Cute shoes, Tom! Well done.


Theodosia - Nov 26, 2011 1:55:21 pm PST #8641 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

A friend of mine was selling stories and poems to significant pro markets when he was in his teens -- I'd say that yes, he was a natural talent. But he says he found it hard to transition to writing in his 20s when his life experiences changed so very much and found he was having to relearn (or learn for the first time) techniques and discipline he'd taken for granted.

FWIW, it's far more usual for pro writers to start selling in their thirties. It's something of a craft-learning, discipline-having, life-experienced period coming together. Innate talent to learn those lessons faster or have a better ear for word music might get you there sooner. Actually LIKING doing it also helps, which is also a part of 'talent.'


beth b - Nov 26, 2011 2:02:05 pm PST #8642 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

There seems to be almost no ability to reproduce sounds that resemble recognizable tunes in my family -- however, my ears have been well trained by living with a musician - and that even translates to having some appreciation for non-western music. I think talent - which I might call natural ability - has to have some sort of genetic component. I think various kinds of abilities have helped us in an evolutionary sense - physical things are more obvious , but other skills help with communication ( singing writing )for example.

And part of the reason it looks so complex - we can use David's example of hitting in baseball - is because one way of hunting, communicating , or building might have kept us from changing , and therefore kept us from surviving.


Strega - Nov 26, 2011 3:14:21 pm PST #8643 of 30001

I'm having a really interesting discussion about whether or not talent actually exists, or if it is all just hard work.

Why are those the only choices? Certainly, some people have slight genetic advantages, and if there's the right combination of early childhood experiences and desire and effort, then poof, 20 years later people say "Wow, she was born to do this."

But the first months and years of life are critical, because they have a huge, lasting impact on brain development. And what happens (or fails to happen) then can't be balanced out with extra work later. That's not genetic or a matter of effort; it's pure luck.


Liese S. - Nov 26, 2011 3:40:05 pm PST #8644 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

JZ, did your singing lessons include ear training work?