I can handle the Oz Full Monty. I mean, not 'handle' handle.

Xander ,'Help'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Nov 18, 2011 5:58:23 am PST #7400 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

isn't there a difference between being attracted TO someone, and thinking that they are attractive?

Sure, absolutely.


Steph L. - Nov 18, 2011 6:01:59 am PST #7401 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Karl, I get what you're saying, but I can't tell from your post if you think there's a distinction between "attracted TO" and "finds attractive." You don't *have* to find a distinction; like I said, I'm very aware that my perspective is not the prevailing one. Maybe there is no distinction for most people -- that's what I was asking.


Amy - Nov 18, 2011 6:03:53 am PST #7402 of 30001
Because books.

I'm friends with plenty of people I find attractive, as in I appreciate that they're nice to look at. Both men and women. I do not want to jump into bed with them.

Usually the people I would like to jump into bed with are also people I find attractive, but it's not always about how good-looking he or she is. It's about who they are, how they make me laugh, how their minds work, etc.


Karl - Nov 18, 2011 6:05:57 am PST #7403 of 30001
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.

Hrm. I think of 'finding attractive' as a sort of abstract thing, like looking at celebrities or other images where I don't have a lot of personal context.

And I think of 'being attracted to' as someone I'd actually like to spend time with.

So yes, I'd say there's a pretty strong distinction for me.


Steph L. - Nov 18, 2011 6:11:34 am PST #7404 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Hrm. I think of 'finding attractive' as a sort of abstract thing, like looking at celebrities or other images where I don't have a lot of personal context.

And I think of 'being attracted to' as someone I'd actually like to spend time with.

Interesting. There are a lot (well, okay, a handful) of people I like to spend time with -- other than Tim -- but I'm not attracted to them.

Perhaps we're just using different definitions.


Jessica - Nov 18, 2011 6:13:34 am PST #7405 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I would say yes, there is a distinction. I think it's safe to say that everyone I'm friends with has something I find attractive (not limited to the purely physical), otherwise who would we be friends? There's a much shorter list of friends I'm attracted to, in the if-we-were-both-single-and-available-hell-yes sense.


Karl - Nov 18, 2011 6:15:38 am PST #7406 of 30001
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.

I wouldn't say that the only people I want to spend time with are those I'm attracted to.

But if I'm attracted to someone, chances are I'm going to want to spend time with that someone.

A bit clearer?


Steph L. - Nov 18, 2011 6:22:31 am PST #7407 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I wouldn't say that the only people I want to spend time with are those I'm attracted to.

But if I'm attracted to someone, chances are I'm going to want to spend time with that someone.

A bit clearer?

I didn't misunderstand your personal defintion of attraction; I was just trying to work out if there was a difference between "attracted to" and "finds attractive." (Not just for you -- this is a general question.)


Karl - Nov 18, 2011 6:28:11 am PST #7408 of 30001
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.

if-we-were-both-single-and-available-hell-yes

I find this hyphenated phrase wonderfully evocative and enthusiastic without being sexist or crude. I just want to marvel at it for a moment.


DavidS - Nov 18, 2011 6:40:39 am PST #7409 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

OMG, Matilda has been a super fuss-pot this week.

I think she's shed tears every morning while getting ready. And it's not just one event per morning, we're probably averaging three separate Cry Events between waking and getting to school.

It hurts when we comb out her hair.

She didn't like the way mommy did her hair. The braids are wrong.

The toe-seam in her stockings is misaligned.

Her tights are droopy.

Her cheeks are cold.

A raindrop hit her.

The tag in her shirt is scratching her.

Halfway to school this morning, she announced that she had to pee and there was no way she could hold it. It's ten minute walk. I threatened "No Ice Cream Ever In The History of the Universe" if she peed on herself. She made it.

The Princess and the Pea is not a fairytale, but a documentary on her life.

I am sad to report that I have dropped a few exasperated "F" bombs. "I don't fucking care if you have a tiny scratch on your hand! For fuck's sake quit whining about it. If you're not bleeding or on fire or shooting vomit and diarrhea from both ends simultaneously or covered in Bubos or sporting a compound fracture: deal with it."

None more fussy.