Look, Angel, I know you've been out of the loop for a while, but I'm still evil. I don't do errands...unless they're evil errands.

Lilah ,'Just Rewards (2)'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Mar 01, 2012 7:15:48 am PST #24604 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Maria,

I understand and I mean no disrespect, but for me my ambivalence is not about politics. He intended (and did) HARM towards people with whom he disagreed and he was very dishonest about it all. He was also racist. Virulently so.

I'm not glad he is dead and I share Shirley Sherrod's sentiments. But he was a very odious person.

That's all I will say further on the matter.


Consuela - Mar 01, 2012 7:18:32 am PST #24605 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Maria, you are right: I am justly chastened. His family deserves our sympathy and support, regardless of his own behavior.

P-C, Breitbart is the guy who picked up & distributed the faked videos that took down ACORN, the misleading videos that embarrassed NPR into firing their CEO, and the misleading video clip that got Shirley Sherrod at USDA fired. Sherrod had actually filed a defamation suit against Breitbart, IIRC. He dealt in lies and entrapment, and used vicious, foul language about his perceived enemies.

He was a no-holds-barred right-wing populist who, so far as I can tell, never had a good thing to say about any elected Democrat. And he did a lot of damage: ACORN no longer exists.


P.M. Marc - Mar 01, 2012 7:19:43 am PST #24606 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

TPM had a remarkably even-handed obit [link]

Man, he was only my sister-in-law's age.

If you've got to go young (none of you are allowed), suddenly with no knowledge of what's happening to you (which it sounds from the obit is what happened here, so either a massive heart attack or a stroke like the one that killed one of my best friends seems likely) is probably the way you'd want to go. Sympathy to his family, though.


Ginger - Mar 01, 2012 7:20:55 am PST #24607 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

As I said, I feel sorry for his family for losing someone so young.

I would feel differently about Breitbart if he had fought the good fight by revealing the truth, however unpleasant.


Jesse - Mar 01, 2012 7:21:39 am PST #24608 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I have my lunch omelet! Precisely as described last night.


Maria - Mar 01, 2012 7:23:57 am PST #24609 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

I'm not defending him in any way. I hated how he twisted the truth and manipulated lies to his own end. I think politics will be better without his influence, but do I think the world is a better place without him? I may have previously, but not anymore. The loss of a human life is the loss of a human life and it changes the fabric of the world.

I am just really raw about this right now


msbelle - Mar 01, 2012 7:31:35 am PST #24610 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Everyone should go spend some of their lunchtime at the good things tumbler.

My energy is going to go with love to Maria.

I need a good lunch today. no ideas though.


Ginger - Mar 01, 2012 7:32:08 am PST #24611 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.


§ ita § - Mar 01, 2012 7:33:59 am PST #24612 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm at the point where I think you can vary the 'weight' of your 'soul' or whatever with your actions. I have no reason to think I've done much investment, but some people have, and will be mourned more widely and deeply that I have, and some people have done the converse, and will have the opposite effect when they die.

Not that I believe in souls, really, but it's a convenient package unit for what I mean.


Hil R. - Mar 01, 2012 7:37:59 am PST #24613 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The traditional Jewish response to hearing of a death is "Baruch ha'dayan emet," which means "Blessed is the true judge." I've found that, for me, that's a good way for me to think about a death of someone I disagreed with -- I'm very sad for his family, and anything more about him personally isn't for me to say.