Love isn't brains, children, it's blood, blood screaming inside you to work its will.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JenP - Feb 28, 2012 6:04:30 pm PST #24288 of 30001

Burrell, I'm so sorry.


DavidS - Feb 28, 2012 6:06:20 pm PST #24289 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Also, the meaning of "race" has changed a bunch of time.

Right, 'cuz it's a social construct. There's no such thing as "race" genetically.

I don't know if America's more whackadoo on the subject than other cultures but it's been foregrounded in our history a lot more.


smonster - Feb 28, 2012 6:19:18 pm PST #24290 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Prevailing czech attitudes toward the Roma when I was there shudder.

Substitute Moldovan and yep. My host family's dog's name was Tsigan (gypsy). Why? He was black. And that ranks on the relatively innocuous side.


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2012 6:33:56 pm PST #24291 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

OMG, I just watched your link, Tom, and I'm glad there was no biological risk of bladder voiding, because there was an emotional/psychological one.

Fuck, there are only 6 LA Complex episodes. And I'm on the last one. Just about everyone has a big stripe of douche (save, maybe one guy), but I do feel for most of them. And I like the ones I hate.

CRACK.

They'll have to edit for the CW for a couple reasons, not least of all because they mention the CW on it.


Typo Boy - Feb 28, 2012 6:34:13 pm PST #24292 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Another data point. Many families who describe themselves as "Scotch-Irish" were of an entirely Irish background. Irish was something to be ashamed of Scottish not, or at least less so. Of course after the claim is passed down for a few generations, the family believes it. (Mind you, there were actual Scotch-Irish, but ratio of claimed to actual was very high.)


Hil R. - Feb 28, 2012 6:37:18 pm PST #24293 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Irish was something to be ashamed of Scottish not, or at least less so. Of course after the claim is passed down for a few generations, the family believes it.

Elsie Dinsmore thought that being Scottish was something to be proud of, and that the Scottish weren't really immigrants like all the other immigrants, because the Scottish were just like the Americans, since both fought against English tyranny. (This argument did not apply to the Irish, because the Irish were Catholic, and the mere threat of Catholic school killed Elsie in the first book.)


Typo Boy - Feb 28, 2012 6:41:27 pm PST #24294 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Nice thing about this board, if you have a tiny fact to share on a topic, toss it forth, and someone will add some depth. Like casting bread upon the waters, and getting it back tenfold, only with obscure and wonderful bits of knowledge. I don't know if I can convey just how, well, welcoming that is even after as long as I've been here.


Ginger - Feb 28, 2012 6:46:13 pm PST #24295 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

the mere threat of Catholic school killed Elsie in the first book.

If only.


Hil R. - Feb 28, 2012 6:46:54 pm PST #24296 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

It did! But then she came back to life.


Ginger - Feb 28, 2012 6:49:32 pm PST #24297 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Zombie Elsie.