I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.

Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Feb 28, 2012 3:45:18 pm PST #24273 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Take care of yourself, Jess! Pneumonia is nothing to fuck around with.


Jesse - Feb 28, 2012 3:45:50 pm PST #24274 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

MAC. Here's hoping this is a brief bump in the road?


hippocampus - Feb 28, 2012 3:55:19 pm PST #24275 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

oh msbelle. So very frustrating. Wishing you guys some smooth days ahead.

Glad you have meds, Jessica.


DavidS - Feb 28, 2012 4:03:03 pm PST #24276 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What a fascinating topic, I've never heard of them.

Me neither, though I am a little familiar with Tri-Racial Isolate groups (like The Ben Ishmaels). It's a revealing window into America's weirdo notions about race which have gone through wild fluctuations in different eras.


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2012 4:13:22 pm PST #24277 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I may not watch the show anymore, but I still like the guys.

I hadn't realised they were kinda grumpy until the co-worker pointed at another picture and said "Except there! They're dapper there!" And I realised it was a picture of Jensen and Jared so I took it down and put up another Winchester picture.

But they are really grumpy.

However, the alternative *is* Batman, so this is the cheerful option.


meara - Feb 28, 2012 4:19:17 pm PST #24278 of 30001

Oof, Jess, that sucks. On the other hand, when I had pneumonia in November the antibiotics really did help pretty quickly, even if it took a while longer to be 100%


Hil R. - Feb 28, 2012 4:24:33 pm PST #24279 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Me neither, though I am a little familiar with Tri-Racial Isolate groups (like The Ben Ishmaels). It's a revealing window into America's weirdo notions about race which have gone through wild fluctuations in different eras.

There are also the Ramapough in New Jersey. Discussion about their racial background can get pretty controversial, though.


sarameg - Feb 28, 2012 4:33:48 pm PST #24280 of 30001

Prevailing czech attitudes toward the Roma when I was there shudder. We had one professor, of politics and history, who was the only member of his family to survive the Nazis, and had deeply disturbing memories of being 6 and fleeing in the night with only their clothes and his father's violin and watching member after member of his family being caught, succumbing to the harsh conditions...and then would casually suggest rounding up all the Roma into ghettos being a good idea. Still blows my mind.

I went on a reading binge many years back of Bury Me Standing, After Such Knowledge What Forgiveness? (Kurds), Drinking the Sea at Gaza, Me Against My Brother (Somalia) and of course, a reread of my library of books on the former Yugoslavia (too long to list) capped off with A Problem From Hell: America and the Age of Genocide. Probably all in a year. Oh, and Blackhawk down and the Black Tulip.

And then I had to take a break. Shocking!


Tom Scola - Feb 28, 2012 4:34:41 pm PST #24281 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

By the way, This New Yorker article is pretty much the only accurate, reasonable article I've read about the Ramapough.


Hil R. - Feb 28, 2012 4:37:47 pm PST #24282 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

From the article Tom linked:

Area teen-agers, recalling decades-old legends of unsuspecting people who climbed Stag Hill and never returned, dare one another to drive up at night.

Yep. I remember this going on when I was in high school.