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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2012 6:23:40 am PST #22251 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I take it very personally, unfortunately.

That's totally where I am. I'm apologising profusely, trying to get someone to treat *me* like I'm stupid so they can walk me through the expectations, but I feel I've accomplished the major goals--I've described a measurable functionality in a way that doesn't depend on actually understanding the application we're changing, but people, smart people, tell me they don't understand.

Seriously. I get that some of it gets a bit tricky, but I swear I should be able to explain it, and I just can't:

  • Post documents only visible to [a defined subset of users] and not the rest of the users (via search and browse)
  • Post documents not visible to [a defined subset of users], only the rest of the users (via search and browse)
  • Extend the conditional tagging functionality so that the web team can designate chunks of HTML as visible to [a defined subset of users] only
  • Extend the conditional tagging functionality so that the web team can designate chinks of HTML as invisible to [a defined subset of users]

I can go into more detail about which sorts of documents are being talked about to give a business context, but it's not relevant to the new requirement. I can talk about who the subset we need this for right away, again for context, but it's not relevant to designing the solution--just the way we can tell them apart, which I've also explained.

WHAT AM I DOING WRONG???


Liese S. - Feb 16, 2012 6:25:47 am PST #22252 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

That seems really straightforward to me, ita !. What are they not getting?


lisah - Feb 16, 2012 6:31:06 am PST #22253 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Yeah, I think I understand what you're talking about but maybe I'm making a lot of assumptions based on my own experience. Maybe it's just the lack of context that is the stumbling block? Even if the context is not relevant to the requirements?


Amy - Feb 16, 2012 6:32:05 am PST #22254 of 30001
Because books.

Maybe people aren't sure which subset of users they belong to?


Ginger - Feb 16, 2012 6:35:04 am PST #22255 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

  • Kirk and Spock can see the documents, but not the rest of the crew.
  • The Red Shirts can't see the documents, which predict their demise, but the rest of the crew can.
  • Spock can make some parts of the information visible only to officers, and can make some parts of the documents, such as the ones that say "The Red Shirts are going to die," invisible to only the Red Shirts.


Consuela - Feb 16, 2012 6:53:18 am PST #22256 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

t loves Ginger

Brilliant!


amych - Feb 16, 2012 6:54:02 am PST #22257 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Ginger wins. Quick, give her command of a starship.


msbelle - Feb 16, 2012 7:07:57 am PST #22258 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

only 11 and I am HUNgry. I have healthy frozen meal options in the freezer, but am craving something else. Not sure what. Probably a fried food sampler platter, but that may not be the best idea. thoughts? suggestions?


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2012 7:12:14 am PST #22259 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What are they not getting?

Unfortunately, as much as I beg, no one will give me that much detail. And the context that keeps being sent around to flesh out my insufficient documentation is 80% inapplicable to my system. So I consider *it* confusing, not me.

Maybe people aren't sure which subset of users they belong to?

No, it's not even that. I mean, the real life examples are so simple, that's part of why I feel like going into that detail is condescending (basically, the new users aren't allowed to see the pay details of the old users, and vice versa). Boom. End of story.

The temptation to "accidentally" slip Ginger's explanation in is quite tempting. I already have "genre geek" branded on my forehead (my boss won't even use the phrase "twilight zone" without *literally* nodding in my direction), so what would be the harm?


lisah - Feb 16, 2012 7:13:17 am PST #22260 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Handful of nuts? Nuts and yogurt are my go to snacks. The power of protein!

But, that's assuming you have these options available.