You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Feb 10, 2012 12:18:15 pm PST #21331 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Can “data” be a mass noun now? Please?


P.M. Marc - Feb 10, 2012 12:19:41 pm PST #21332 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I do not correct people's spoken English, although when some people say, "I feel nauseous," I think, "You're certainly having that effect on me." I'll probably always change "I feel nauseous" to "I feel nauseated" in written copy. After all, I still care about the distinction between different from and different than.

That's so hot.

What? I mean it.


Ginger - Feb 10, 2012 12:23:29 pm PST #21333 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The good ship Hopefully may have sailed, but I wasn't on it. I'll admit that mute for moot is one of the things I have corrected in public. A colleague, who was theoretically a writer, kept using it over and over in staff meetings, until I started to have uncontrollable eye rolls. Not only was she pronouncing it wrong, but also she was also using it mainly in reference to points she didn't want to talk about, such as why she misspelled someone's name in an article.


amych - Feb 10, 2012 12:27:39 pm PST #21334 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Yeah, mute for moot is simply the wrong word.

Nauseous and hopefully, at least for me, are more in the category of "Strunk and White is a shit guide." t duck-n-run


Ginger - Feb 10, 2012 12:33:00 pm PST #21335 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

are more in the category of "Strunk and White is a shit guide."

I can't betray my first love.


§ ita § - Feb 10, 2012 12:35:31 pm PST #21336 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I did once have a big old crush on Strunk and White, but that was because it was the first conversational guide I'd ever read. Now I'm good with picking and choosing whose advice I take, but then I was just so fucking glad someone was telling *people* how to compose English correctly.

Not, of course, realising, that only nerds and people forced to were reading it. Oh, oops, the choir and the resentful.


brenda m - Feb 10, 2012 12:39:37 pm PST #21337 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

According to the OED, nauseous entered written English as "feeling ill," but that meaning was later considered obsolete, replaced by nauseated for feeling ill.

But wait! Wouldn't the true pedant's perspective be to deplore that first shift, and welcome the popular effort to reclaim the original meeting? Drive back the forces of 18th century popular misuse?


-t - Feb 10, 2012 12:54:21 pm PST #21338 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It has taken me over a week to figure out how to download something I bought because the link to download on the "order status" page is not underlined. I thought we had an understanding, internet.


JZ - Feb 10, 2012 1:08:03 pm PST #21339 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Hivemind math advice requested: someone on another website is claiming that "studies show" that a woman who's been on oral contraceptives for 3 years increases her cancer risk by 1000%. Which is pretty obviously nonsense--I remember just enough of How To Lie With Statistics to feel pretty confident in calling it nonsense, but I'm kind of a numbers moron myself and can't figure out how to quantify the idiocy.

Can anyone who's mathier than me take a crack at it? I know the ACS current lifetime risk estimate for the average USian woman is 1 in 8; and the Guttmacher Institute says that the US has approximately 43 million reproductive age, sexually active women, of whom about 10.7 million are on the Pill, most for at least 3 years over their lifetimes, if not a whole lot longer. I'm pretty sure all those numbers add up to "1000% is a completely crack-addled junk stat you just pulled out of your ass," but I'm not sure why, and I'm getting a math-anxiety stomachache just thinking about it. Help a sister out, anyone?


meara - Feb 10, 2012 1:13:52 pm PST #21340 of 30001

Um, of WHAT cancer? Any cancer? Cause being on the pill reduces your risk of several cancers, so that seems...unlikely. I mean, even if it was "increases 100%" (which would be doubling your risk).