Don't worry, I'm not gonna start any sword fights. I'm over that phase.

Mal ,'War Stories'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Feb 02, 2012 3:02:34 am PST #19693 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

YAY Washington!!


Laura - Feb 02, 2012 3:13:40 am PST #19694 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

When my kids are my age they will say, "I remember when I was a kid gay people couldn't even get married." The times they are a changing. Never fast enough, but it is happening.


Jessica - Feb 02, 2012 4:00:29 am PST #19695 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

When my kids are my age they will say, "I remember when I was a kid gay people couldn't even get married." The times they are a changing. Never fast enough, but it is happening.

This.


sumi - Feb 02, 2012 4:16:17 am PST #19696 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Yesterday I felt foolish wearing my hikers - so today I wore sneakers.

Wrong choice.

The sidewalks are all slippery.

It turns out that it rained last night and then the temperatures dropped to below freezing. It's foggy as heck out this morning. I hope that the temps rise above freezing so that the sidewalks are safer this evening.

Luckily, I didn't fall.


DavidS - Feb 02, 2012 4:34:29 am PST #19697 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

New study out of UCSF contends it's sugar, not obesity causing chronic illness.

Lustig has written and talked extensively about the role he believes sugar has played in driving up rates of chronic illness such as heart disease and diabetes. Excessive sugar, he argues, alters people's biochemistry, making them more vulnerable to metabolic conditions that lead to illness, while at the same time making people crave sweets even more.

It's sugar, not obesity, that is the real health threat, Lustig and his co-authors - public health experts Laura Schmidt and Claire Brindis - say in their paper. They note that studies show 20 percent of obese people have normal metabolism and no ill health effects resulting from their weight, while 40 percent of normal-weight people have metabolic problems that can lead to diabetes and heart disease. They contend that sugar consumption is the cause.

In other words, not everyone gains a lot of weight from over-indulging in sugar, but a large proportion of the U.S. population is eating enough of it that it's having devastating health effects, they say.

"The gestalt shift is maybe obesity is just a marker for the rise in chronic disease worldwide, and in fact metabolic syndrome, caused by excessive sugar consumption, is the real culprit," said Schmidt, a health policy professor who focuses on alcohol and addiction research.

Americans eat and drink roughly 22 teaspoons of sugar every day - triple what they consumed three decades ago - and most people aren't even aware of the various ways sugars sneak into their diets, often via breads and cereals and processed foods. Terms that identify sugars on labels include sucrose, glucose, fructose, maltose, hydrolysed starch and invert sugar, corn syrup and honey.


Steph L. - Feb 02, 2012 4:40:19 am PST #19698 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

New study out of UCSF contends it's sugar, not obesity causing chronic illness.

Since there's no chronic disease that *only* obese people get (i.e., thin people get The Diabetes, too), that's not exactly a shocker. (Er, to me. I know there are tons of people who think that OMGDEATHFATZ, but they are wrong.)

And I believe that sugar is not the healthiest thing in the world. But it's SO TASTY!!!!!!

invert sugar

I'm picturing a bag of sugar hanging upside down from a jungle gym.


DavidS - Feb 02, 2012 4:43:24 am PST #19699 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm picturing a bag of sugar hanging upside down from a jungle gym.

Doing sugar crunches.

Back in the nineteenth century "invert sugar" would mean "gay sugar."


Jessica - Feb 02, 2012 4:46:40 am PST #19700 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Since there's no chronic disease that *only* obese people get (i.e., thin people get The Diabetes, too), that's not exactly a shocker.

I'm not disputing the research, but this is a logical fallacy. Non-smokers can get lung cancer, that does not mean that smoking can't cause lung cancer.


Steph L. - Feb 02, 2012 4:48:25 am PST #19701 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Duly chastened.


billytea - Feb 02, 2012 4:50:49 am PST #19702 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Since there's no chronic disease that *only* obese people get (i.e., thin people get The Diabetes, too), that's not exactly a shocker. (Er, to me. I know there are tons of people who think that OMGDEATHFATZ, but they are wrong.)

I agree (and my overweight self just got a clean bill of health in my last medical visit), but no risk factor is going to give a perfect correlation. There are smokers who still live to a ripe old age, and non-smokers who get lung cancer; it's still pretty clear that smoking elevates one's risk of lung disease (and a whole host of other conditions, of course).

Hee. Crosspost, right down to the choice of counterexample.