Wesley: I stabbed you. I should apologize for that. But I'm honestly not sure how. I think it'll just be awkward. Gunn: Good call. Wesley: Okay.

'Time Bomb'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2012 7:51:52 am PST #18285 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would think she'd be hip to actual hard data from evidence-based studies, and/or the fact that no evidence-based studies have ever proven that a patient can cure cancer through diet

This is my hope, but I worry about the pressure my sister seems ready to put on her. My sister was going to cure her own fibroids through seven million different dietary choices, and my mother kept shoving studies at her, so I'm hoping she's still in that headspace (my sister ended up having surgery to remove the fibroids anyway).


Steph L. - Jan 25, 2012 7:54:42 am PST #18286 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Apparently a friend of my sister's beat cancer through diet. Avoided chemo and radiation.

Yeah, but that's just anecdata. I get that when it's a personal connection it seems So! Much! More! Relevant! as "proof" instead of being an outlier. But it still has fuck-all to do with actual data on what is and isn't effective.

That said, I was thinking of how you could counter those things in talking to your mom, but it sounds like you just want to stop that shit at the source, and I guess that's way trickier.


Jesse - Jan 25, 2012 7:59:41 am PST #18287 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I will always want to cheer her up, but it can be bigger than that. I hope they get that.

Yeah. I'm glad you do, at least?


Consuela - Jan 25, 2012 7:59:59 am PST #18288 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My friend and her DH are going to Chicago for the first time on Easter Weekend. They're looking for good places (neighborhoods or hotels) to see, stay, eat, drink. Or good sites that will tell them all those things. Interests are: beer, food, crafty things, history, sports, Simpsons.

Farmhouse on West Chicago, just north of the Loop: it's a locally-sourced craft brewpub with great food and beer.

... okay, yeah, and my brother owns it. But it's still great.


le nubian - Jan 25, 2012 8:00:19 am PST #18289 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Check out this slideshow of celebrity plastic surgery.

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just man oh man. startling to see the pics from like 10 years ago and now.


Sue - Jan 25, 2012 8:01:58 am PST #18290 of 30001
hip deep in pie

Farmhouse on West Chicago, just north of the Loop: it's a locally-sourced craft brewpub with great food and beer.

Right! Thanks!


le nubian - Jan 25, 2012 8:04:22 am PST #18291 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Chicago: I love the Museum of Science & Industry. Just a whole lot of fun and I could spend 2-3 days in there.

Chicago has some wonderful mexican food restaurants, I'm happy to recommend my favorites if that is the kind of food your friend likes. I have some recommendations regarding hotels, but I have gotten some good deals from priceline. I have have stayed in a few hotels around downtown (perhaps quite a few), so if you can tell me the kind of hotel they are looking for, I'm happy to give a thumbs up/down.


Ginger - Jan 25, 2012 8:05:12 am PST #18292 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Apparently a friend of my sister's beat cancer through diet. Avoided chemo and radiation.

Yeah, but that's just anecdata.

Also, it's usually not anything like the full story. Some people who say that have been diagnosed with something like DCIS that may or may not be precancerous. Some are saying they beat cancer while the cancer is merrily metastasizing while they've been juicing carrots instead of going to the doctor.

I have known several people who treated their cancers with diet, herbs and various other alternative therapies. They're dead.

(I don't feel strongly about this, do I?)


Typo Boy - Jan 25, 2012 8:06:09 am PST #18293 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

My late second cousin self-treated for lung cancer with diet and herbs.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2012 8:06:11 am PST #18294 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah. I'm glad you do, at least?

Apparently it takes being depressed (and having illness-affected depression) to get that. I know I've told my father I'm on ADs before (although I'm really crap at taking them), but he seemed startled when I was explaining depression to him (again). It's kind of scary how little he gets it. I feel like a preachy social justice type some times when I am trying to suggest ways for him to interact with his fucking wife of 40+ years.

it sounds like you just want to stop that shit at the source, and I guess that's way trickier.

I hope I've conveyed to my sister that I'm perfectly happy for her friend, but if any of this makes my mother more anxious, I'm going to...what the fuck am I going to do? Beam disapproval from the West Coast? I don't know.

My sister's not an idiot, and she's an academic with a thorough understanding of statistics. That said, she's the kind of skeptic that I'm not. I just hope I expressed myself rationally and non-confrontationally. Everyone is on a razor's edge of getting upset.