Bryan Ferry just married his son's ex-girlfriend. I'm so "Huh?" about the objective immovable disapproval many people are expressing. If the son doesn't care, why do I get a vote? Isn't this a case-by-case thing?
What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.
Angel ,'Conviction (1)'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
§ ita § - Jan 11, 2012 3:08:55 pm PST #15771 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
le nubian - Jan 11, 2012 3:12:54 pm PST #15772 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Jessica,
I understand your points and while I tentatively agree, as someone who had such an ultrasound because of "female" problems, it was NOT a pleasant experience. I get that pregnant women get prodded and poked, but do they need to have this additional physical prodding against their will as well?
Stephanie - Jan 11, 2012 3:17:10 pm PST #15773 of 30001
Trust my rage
I'm confused - Texas has a law the requires a transvaginal ultrasound against someone's will?
sarameg - Jan 11, 2012 3:22:16 pm PST #15774 of 30001
Full-on ms. Plus stupid hot pool and stupid work.
JenP - Jan 11, 2012 3:25:25 pm PST #15775 of 30001
transvaginal ultrasound is rape
What? Wait, OK, I know nothing about the law, is her stance due to some requirement of the law that there be a transvaginal ultrasound before an abortion can be performed (I'm so COMPLETELY guessing here, please understand)? So, essentially, taking consent out of the equation for having your vagina... transed... by a dildocam if you want an abortion? Therefore, rape? Again, totally guessing, but curious so I can form a coherent thought.
le nubian - Jan 11, 2012 3:25:34 pm PST #15776 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Stephanie,
yes. in order to get an abortion, women must have the ultrasound whether they want one or not.
Stephanie - Jan 11, 2012 3:28:17 pm PST #15777 of 30001
Trust my rage
I did a little bit of looking around. That law seems...cruel, regardless of the type of ultrasound.
Jessica - Jan 11, 2012 3:31:25 pm PST #15778 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I get that pregnant women get prodded and poked, but do they need to have this additional physical prodding against their will as well?
But that's not why it's a bad law. It's a bad law because it's legislating against reproductive rights. If it were rewritten to specify only external ultrasound, or just a fetal heart monitor, it would still be just as bad.
(The law doesn't, AFAIK, specifically mandate a transvaginal US, but since that's the standard of care in the first trimester, that's what the vast majority of women will get when they go in to ask for an abortion. And you'll pretty much get one whether it's legally mandated or not, because you can't have an abortion unless the doctor knows a little bit about your pregnancy first. So arguing that this is a bad law because the dildocam is invasive is just completely missing the point.)
Jesse - Jan 11, 2012 3:32:07 pm PST #15779 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
But that's not why it's a bad law. It's a bad law because it's legislating against reproductive rights.
Yes.
JenP - Jan 11, 2012 3:37:19 pm PST #15780 of 30001
Hey, I am in complete agreement with Jessica! I don't even have to form my own coherent thought. I love it when that happens.