Apparently Cleaved is not much with the nuance and end result, and seems to make people hate her even more.

I think I'm going to eat dinner. I mean, I want to be eating, so I might as well, right?

I had never heard the term soc nor heard of any of these women, but the discussion is amusing nonetheless. Rather like a local show here called Deco Drive which often mocks celebrities I don't know, and yet they amuse me when I catch the show.

I still don't know what the hell a Kardashian is. I think it's someone (or a family?) who has a TV show, but I don't know why he/she/they have a TV show or what it's about or why exactly we should care.

But I miss a lot not having cable. And not giving a shit about stuff like this.

(Someone on FB posted a picture that had on one side a collage of people like Ghandi, Marie Curie, Stephen Hawking, etc., and on the other side was a large picture of some woman with a margarita that had 2 beer bottles in it. And the caption was something about how it's a sad world when people don't know who the people on the left (Ghandi, et al.) are, but DO know who the woman on the right is.

I had no idea, so I had to ask. It's someone called Snooki. Is she a Kardashian? I didn't want to ask further questions on FB so as not to embarrass the shit out of myself for not knowing who these people are or why I should know who they are.)

I don't have teevee, either, but somehow I know that Snooki is from Jersey Shore. I am not sure I could tell her apart from a Kardashian, though.

ETA: jersey shore is a reality show about modern "Italian-American" culture in Jersey which to me seems super offensive to actual Italian Americans.

Snooki is a tiny, orange, busty dwarf. The Kardashians are the same, but taller.

Yeah, Snookie is a Jersey Shore person. The Kardashians are Kim, Khourtney, and Khloe.

Snooki has recently lost a bunch of weight, apparently, so less busty at the moment.

I just googled (why) and she has reached her goal weight of 98 pounds. She really must be super short.

For anyone who has watched, do people walk around calling "The Situation" "The Situation". Do people yell it across the room to get his attention. It is so weird sounding to me.

There are more Kardashians than those three, Hil, for sure. There's a teenager that just started modelling. No, I don't know her name.

I still don't know what the hell a Kardashian is.

Bruce Jenner, the US's best decathlete of his period, married into the Kardashian family. That's why I've watched an episode of the show, and it was entirely not worth it, because they *never* discuss track and field. True story.

I just googled (why) and she has reached her goal weight of 98 pounds. She really must be super short.

4'10" or 4'11", I think. I remember noting that she was about the same height as me.

Bruce Jenner, the US's best decathlete of his period, married into the Kardashian family. That's why I've watched an episode of the show, and it was entirely not worth it, because they *never* discuss track and field. True story.

The father was one of OJ's lawyers.

And then Kim did a sex tape with Brandy's brother, and now the whole family makes their living on TV.