I never believed Obama when he said he would veto it in the first place.
I am seriously having a hard time understanding why anybody would think that this isn't a gross abuse of power, and contrary to the Constitution. How is it Constitutional?
Nobody can tell Marmaduke what to do. That's my kind of dog.
Trick ,'First Date'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
DavidS - Dec 15, 2011 7:34:41 am PST #11660 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Typo Boy - Dec 15, 2011 7:38:10 am PST #11661 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Obama has long made it clear he believes in the unitary executive, not by his words but by his actions. And MSNBC mostly kvells about how tough he is as he assassinates people all over the world. This is just a logical next step. His primary objection to the original version was that it REQUIRED indefinite detention and REQUIRED military custody. Once it allowed executive discretion Obama was fine with it, because then it was pure expansion of executive power with no new limitations on Presidential discretion.
brenda m - Dec 15, 2011 7:39:58 am PST #11662 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Cranberries aren't going to give off much, if any, liquid in a cookie recipe. But the dried ones will be sweeter.
DavidS - Dec 15, 2011 7:40:03 am PST #11663 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I still don't understand how it's Constitutional, when the Constitution guarantees due process.
-t - Dec 15, 2011 7:41:05 am PST #11664 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Sophia! Insent a few days ago, re: knitting.
§ ita § - Dec 15, 2011 7:41:22 am PST #11665 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm not sure who Daphne Guinness is, but apparently she has used nail polish as lipstick. That sounds like such a bad idea on so many fronts. Yeowch.
Allyson - Dec 15, 2011 7:47:01 am PST #11666 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Obama is going to sign off on the Indefinite Retention bill, which means no habeas corpus.
This is the first time in my adult life I'm thinking about sitting out an election. The Plan B thing sent me right over the edge.
Typo Boy - Dec 15, 2011 7:47:01 am PST #11667 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
It probably is not Platonically constitutional. But unless the Supreme Court rules otherwise it is constitutional in practice. Unfortunately the constitution does not provide all that much protection if your rights in practice unless you have a popular movement objecting to the violation of your rights.
DavidS - Dec 15, 2011 8:06:11 am PST #11668 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Unfortunately the constitution does not provide all that much protection if your rights in practice unless you have a popular movement objecting to the violation of your rights.
Thank goodness for the vast voting block of Libertarians who are irate about this!
No wait...
DebetEsse - Dec 15, 2011 8:08:45 am PST #11669 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Unfortunately the constitution does not provide all that much protection if your rights in practice unless you have a popular movement objecting to the violation of your rights.
IANAL, but I don't think this is quite accurate.
But, you can only challenge something once it's been put into practice against you.
And, until it's been challenged and ruled unconstitutional, it stands.