It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 26, 2011 11:25:14 am PDT #18128 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Ugh. I just got my formal job offer, and it is the lowest possible offer that HR is legally required to make. My new admin director fought back on it, but HR categorically refused to budge. I mean, it's still good because I'm now at least at the bottom of a much higher career track instead of near the top of a dead-end one

This is why I am relieved to be out of higher ed. Though for how long, who knows. I do know that if I ever want to be in "professional staff" in higher ed, I need to bulk up my experience and title growth outside its horrid HR ivory tower and then come back in.


sumi - Jul 26, 2011 11:26:22 am PDT #18129 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Check out these pretty "Witch Potion" cookie.


Calli - Jul 26, 2011 11:29:00 am PDT #18130 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm sorry about the job offer stuff, JZ.


Kate P. - Jul 26, 2011 11:34:18 am PDT #18131 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

JZ, I'm sorry -- that's crappy and disappointing. If you don't mind my asking, is it at least a step up from the salary you're at now, or is it actually a decrease?


smonster - Jul 26, 2011 11:36:41 am PDT #18132 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

JZ, blecch.


Ginger - Jul 26, 2011 11:38:13 am PDT #18133 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'm sorry, JZ, but I know how those pay scales work and, as you know, the people doing the hiring often have no choice. They may have the option to move you up with raises fairly quickly, though, since you have a higher midpoint now.


SuziQ - Jul 26, 2011 11:43:24 am PDT #18134 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I'm sorry, JZ, but I know how those pay scales work and, as you know, the people doing the hiring often have no choice. They may have the option to move you up with raises fairly quickly, though, since you have a higher midpoint now.

I was in basically a similar situation when I moved to CO. I moved to a higher level job with more potential after maxing out my no-future position. I didn't get any increase in pay - they tried to make it out that since they weren't making a reduction in cost of living that I was actually getting a raise, but still - no increase. BUT since then I have already gotten a promotion with a nice increase that never would have happened in my old position.


JZ - Jul 26, 2011 11:43:57 am PDT #18135 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

It's a 5% increase - which doesn't suck, except it's 5% up from the salary I was hired at 3+ years ago. The new division is under the umbrella of a dept that does periodic performance and salary reviews of all its management-ish people (I won't in fact be managing anyone, but this position is technically management), roughly every couple of years but more at the discretion of the higher-ups. I don't know where we are in the cycle.

Right now I'm about to be the highest-paid person at my level in the entire department, which is another whole level of ridiculous (in my small office there's one person who's been working there for 7 years, and I think I'll now be out-earning her. System of pure craxy.).


Gudanov - Jul 26, 2011 11:47:38 am PDT #18136 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Sorry the outcome wasn't what you hoped for. Glad it doesn't totally suck though.


Ginger - Jul 26, 2011 11:52:42 am PDT #18137 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Bobby Franklin, the Georgia state representative who proposed any number of insane, hateful and embarrassing bills, has been found dead at 59. He's the one who proposed legislation that would allow guns in church; abolish driver's licenses; mandate the state to pay debts in silver or gold; change the rape law to replace the word "victim" with "accuser;" and an annual anti-abortion bill, which this year included a provision that all miscarriages be investigated as to their cause. While I would have loved to seem him be trounced in an election, I'm finding commenters a little too full of glee. I know; never read the comments.