Can't drink, smoke, diddle my willy. Doesn't leave much to do other than watch you blokes stumble around playing Agatha Christie.

Spike ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2011 7:48:52 am PDT #16256 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Burrell, I think most violence on TV is less insidious than rape is, so I don't mind it as much. But when you get to torture or abuse, I also get tetchy. Those are a whole different kettle of fish.


Allyson - Jul 12, 2011 7:53:16 am PDT #16257 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm setting off for Vegas and TAM tomorrow which should be...ugly. I think. I'm unsure. I'm completely stoked about meeting Phil Plait and Neil Grasse Tyson, though. I've never been to Vegas.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2011 7:54:27 am PDT #16258 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was sitting in a cafe outside Vegas when you called me and asked me why I was late getting into LA. It's my only clear Vegas memory from the drive across the country.

Uh, completely unrelated to anything relevant. Just came to mind.

It was a cool cafe.


Jesse - Jul 12, 2011 7:54:30 am PDT #16259 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yay msbelle!


Jessica - Jul 12, 2011 7:54:49 am PDT #16260 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Can we declare a moratorium on rape in popular media?

Yes, please.


Jesse - Jul 12, 2011 7:56:12 am PDT #16261 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, and the sexual harassment stuff was my only problem with Horrible Bosses -- lol, rape is funny when it's a hot lady perpetrator.


Kat - Jul 12, 2011 7:56:24 am PDT #16262 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Also, yay for day 2, msbelle.

Allyson, have fun in Vegas.

My appointment with the ABA therapist? She's 30 minutes late. She called 15 minutes ago to tell me she was late leaving. Um. okay. No yoga for me.


Jessica - Jul 12, 2011 7:57:49 am PDT #16263 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

16 pound baby born in Texas.

Holy shit. That's more than my 6-month old weighs now.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2011 8:00:33 am PDT #16264 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

lol, rape is funny when it's a hot lady perpetrator.

That's entirely my hangup with seeing it. Although it's probably less than 1/3 of the movie, I just am tired of my entertainment dollars going in that direction.

In watching the rape on True Blood I was appalled. Not in how it was filmed--it was clearly non con. But at the thought of the responses. And sure enough, I read stuff like "But surely he'd have been into that." "What? Rape." "No, sex with multiple women." Oh, you meant gang rape. Much better. Good god, he clearly didn't want to have sex with the one and he'd been dating her, why would the others be any better? And then the showrunner called it his comeuppance for previous casual sex. Good GOD indeed.


Allyson - Jul 12, 2011 8:01:09 am PDT #16265 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think that if people handled rape in fiction like...RAPE, I wouldn't mind. Admit that wielded sex pollen is roofies is rape. Admit that men can be raped. Admit that prison rape isn't part of a jail sentence. Admit that it takes recovering from. Admit that no means no. Then I'd be okay. But that so rarely seems to happen.

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