I get confused. I remember everything. I remember too much, and... some of it's made up, and... some of it can't be quantified, and... there's secrets.

River ,'Safe'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Dec 08, 2010 8:05:15 am PST #9633 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I had scrambled eggs too this morning. But with pancakes. The SO & I had a rare morning where we were in together. So we slept in and then had a late breakfast. It was tasty. He was all wiped from djing the kids' dance yesterday and today's lessons aren't until afternoon. It was really nice to have a breath's worth of time together quietly.


tommyrot - Dec 08, 2010 8:05:23 am PST #9634 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

An article about Midwestern sayings and expressions: [link]

I had no idea "come with" was a Midwestern expression.

Which brings us to "come with," probably the most common example of Midwest speak. "I'm going for coffee. You want to come with?" (Also works for "bring with," "go with" and most verbs indicating movement.)

John Spartz, assistant professor in the department of writing studies at the University of Minnesota Duluth, explored the famous phrase in his PhD dissertation: "Do You Want to Come With?: A Cross-dialectal, Multi-field, Variationist Investigation of With as a Particle Selected By Motion Verbs in The Minnesota Dialect of English."

He says "come with" can be traced to the upper Midwest's heavily German, Norwegian, Swedish and Dutch roots.

"Basically these immigrants landed here, and in learning English took some of the nuances of their languages and mapped them on to English," Spartz says. "There are some super technical linguistic reasons that happened, but essentially the phrase is prevalent in a variety of those languages so it makes sense that it would find its way into English as well."

But is it grammatically correct?

"It's actually completely correct," says Spartz. "Grammar school grammar rules tell you not to end a sentence with a preposition, but it's not a preposition. It's actually a particle as part of a phrasal verb. Just like in 'I kicked over a bucket,' 'kicked' and 'over' are both part of the verb. 'With' is, in fact, part of the verb. The verb moves as a unit."

But it's not an expression I use much....


Liese S. - Dec 08, 2010 8:07:01 am PST #9635 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I say comewith.

Oh, Perkins, that sounds like no fun at all.


§ ita § - Dec 08, 2010 8:09:01 am PST #9636 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hmm. I say come with too.

Perkins, are you going to tell them why you're switching? Good on you for taking action, suck on them for precipitating it.


msbelle - Dec 08, 2010 8:11:23 am PST #9637 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

BOO on Perkins' day.

In more FuckCancer news. That thing on my mom's face, positive for cancer. She goes to the Dr. 1/3/11 to have more removed. They will not know until then if she will have to see a plastic surgeon also, or if they have any fear that it is elsewhere.


tommyrot - Dec 08, 2010 8:12:21 am PST #9638 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

For Hec: There's more than one way to wreck an airship

Well. That looks a little off, doesn't it?

The USS Los Angeles was a Navy airship, built as part of German war reparations from World War I. Early in her career, the Los Angeles was drained of hydrogen and refilled with non-flammable helium. Good idea, that. But it wasn't enough to make her accident-proof. This photo was taken on August 25, 1927, after a sudden change in the wind direction caught the back end of the moored Los Angeles.

Within moments, she was completely vertical.


msbelle - Dec 08, 2010 8:13:07 am PST #9639 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am going to do a task. call a potential psychiatrist for myself so I have someone to manage my meds who is local, not in NY.

I already did one yuck chore - deleting more emails from my work computer. I cleared out over 500.


§ ita § - Dec 08, 2010 8:15:17 am PST #9640 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have been working on that project definition power point deck. Which requires me to read my boss's mind and then have him evaluate my precision. Also, I don't know how to differentiate between purpose and charter and objectives. Not to mention how that overlaps with scope.

Also, my nails suck and my teeth hurt. And I'm still pouty about last night's dream. I had to commit suicide, dammit! And it didn't even end the story.


Lee - Dec 08, 2010 8:17:24 am PST #9641 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

are you going to tell them why you're switching?

Oh yeah. I also told the Breast Cancer Care coordinator, since she is the one I called to see what the process was.

I finally got a call back, and I don't have to go back, which is good.

I guess my 11:00 task is going to be calling to see if I can make an appointment with the other doctor.


Lee - Dec 08, 2010 8:18:49 am PST #9642 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm sorry about your mom, msbelle. I hope they can remove it easily and that that will be all they need to do.