Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Dec 02, 2010 10:08:04 am PST #8593 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Based on the new way points are calculated, though, I'm seriously going to need to revamp my go-to kind of foods as many have gone up in points.

It's been a long time since I did WW, but -- why would they do that? I always thought the points system was a really good one.


bon bon - Dec 02, 2010 10:12:06 am PST #8594 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The formula apparently better incorporates how carbs and protein affect you. Used to be calories/fat/fiber. Now you don't use calories -- you calculate points with carbs/protein/fat/fiber. Which makes it difficult to eyeball. Could be good in the long run (eyeballing leads to failure, IME) but seems like a hard learning curve.


brenda m - Dec 02, 2010 10:14:02 am PST #8595 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It's still a points system, but it now takes into account carbs and protein along with fiber and fat. I'm still trying to figure it out myself - having the slider would be very helpful.


Anne W. - Dec 02, 2010 10:32:06 am PST #8596 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The formula apparently better incorporates how carbs and protein affect you.

I'm actually pretty stoked about that.


bon bon - Dec 02, 2010 11:27:50 am PST #8597 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Does anyone get CI's "Entertaining" magazine? And if so, has the holiday issue shown up yet?


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 02, 2010 11:31:14 am PST #8598 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

From what I've read, the eight-glasses-a-day rule originated with studies done by nutritionists in pre-WWII Britain and does not account for the fact that a fair amount of that 64 oz. of liquid can come from the consumption of solid food. Generally speaking, "drink when you're thirsty" seems to be the best guideline, with extra only needed if you're working outside in the heat, suffering from diarrhea, or drinking alcohol (the only truly effective diuretic that people commonly consume, depite all the squawking over caffeinated beverages).


Zenkitty - Dec 02, 2010 11:32:18 am PST #8599 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

The formula apparently better incorporates how carbs and protein affect you. Used to be calories/fat/fiber. Now you don't use calories -- you calculate points with carbs/protein/fat/fiber.

This makes me consider trying Weight Watchers, for the first time. The whole thing with counting points seems almost as oppressive as counting calories, but counting carbs is pretty annoying, too.

Basically, after losing 8 pounds in five months, I feel less "yay I lost 8 pounds!" and a lot more "dammit, why is this so hard?" and I'm willing to try something new. Low-carb is still definitely the way to go for me, but going too low with carbs leaves me lethargic and depressed, especially in winter. So I have yet to find that perfect balance of carb/fat/protein intake and exercise that will allow the pounds to melt away. Yeah, exercise - I should do some of that.


tommyrot - Dec 02, 2010 11:33:36 am PST #8600 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

the only truly effective diuretic that people commonly consume, depite all the squawking over caffeinated beverages

So why does coffee make me pee so much?


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 02, 2010 11:37:08 am PST #8601 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Tea, coffee, etc. do have a diuretic effect, but you're not losing more fluid than you're gaining by drinking them in the first place. Net effect is that they do re-hydrate you, just not as much as the same amount of water would. Whereas alcohol really does dry you out, hence the hangover from drinking too much of it.


Zenkitty - Dec 02, 2010 11:40:06 am PST #8602 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Wow, you guys are right, the WW website sucks. I can't find any information beyond the basic "Need to lose weight? Here's how!" Everything I click leads me to a sign-up page. I want more info before I give you money!