Everybody dies, Tracey. Someone's carrying a bullet for you right now, doesn't even know it. The trick is to die of old age before it finds you.

Mal ,'The Message'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Dec 01, 2010 9:00:40 am PST #8358 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, ita. I'm glad your doc is keeping up the prescription and so sorry it isn't doing enough.


Amy - Dec 01, 2010 9:04:45 am PST #8359 of 30001
Because books.

That's some kind of progress, ita, I hope. I'm sorry it's such a bad pain day, though.

beth, congratulations on the job! Whoot!


Jessica - Dec 01, 2010 9:06:18 am PST #8360 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

he thinks I have some "right" or something to not be in constant pain, and he has something called a "duty" to minimise the amount of pain I'm in

That sounds like a good answer to me - I mean, if the meds you were taking now were working, there would be a good argument for keeping you on them. But since you're not satisfied with the results and your doctor is concerned about dependence/side-effects/whatever, it's in everyone's interest to keep looking for better solutions. I'm so sorry there haven't been any easy answers so far.


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2010 9:08:19 am PST #8361 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks. It's something. I also have an accommodation note to give my boss about asking for working from home...but I'm in no condition to have that conversation today, I don't think.


-t - Dec 01, 2010 9:15:35 am PST #8362 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

At least he's not telling you to dance and drink coffee.

Whew, my candles made it in time and I found my menorah. Usually my local grocery store carries a few, but I don't think they realized how early Hannukah was coming this year so I had to order. Now I just need to figure out how to test that frozen-candles-drip-less hypothesis and I'll be all set.


Sue - Dec 01, 2010 9:16:00 am PST #8363 of 30001
hip deep in pie

ita, it sounds like your doc is a good egg. I hope he finds something to help.

You there's nothing like being dumped with a many versions of comments on a document without any direction on how to synthesize them. Only to be told while working on the final set of comments they need a summary of all the changes made. (And I'm in WP, where track changes isn't as easy.)


Connie Neil - Dec 01, 2010 9:17:24 am PST #8364 of 30001
brillig

What is the calculation for when Hannukah occurs? I didn't know it was a movable feast, like Easter.


P.M. Marc - Dec 01, 2010 9:24:41 am PST #8365 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

There was an episode of the NPR program The World that was about parents of kids with ADD/ADHD who then discover -- due to their kid's diagnosis -- that they themselves have ADD/ADHD. There was a portion of the show where listeners could call in, and one dad called in and he was just a seething ball of barely repressed anger. The way he described his son's behavior patterns did, in fact, sound super frustrating (although it sounded like the kid had ODD, not ADHD [not that I'm a doctor]). I don't deny that. But this dad was just so angry that it made me sad for the kid.

Frequently co-morbid. Very frequently.

Bonnie, I think the mother needs to be seeing a professional with kids, especially one with ADD/ADHD/ASD kids. (Because no matter how stubborn and angry she's being, she's also not wrong that you can't know. You can't. No non-parent can. I thought I did, but nope. I didn't. So she needs, as Msbelle suggested, to have that not be something she can respond with.)


beekaytee - Dec 01, 2010 9:32:37 am PST #8366 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Bonnie, I think the mother needs to be seeing a professional with kids, especially one with ADD/ADHD/ASD kids. (Because no matter how stubborn and angry she's being, she's also not wrong that you can't know. You can't. No non-parent can. I thought I did, but nope. I didn't. So she needs, as Msbelle suggested, to have that not be something she can respond with.)

I tried to give her a referral before we even started working together, and am at the point of wanting to refer her again. It will have to be handled really carefully, given the tenuous nature of her hold on 'help.'

I fear she will take the suggestion as me giving up...which isn't entirely without merit. I'm not giving up on the potential for change but on my ability to facilitate it.


Betsy HP - Dec 01, 2010 9:38:34 am PST #8367 of 30001
If I only had a brain...

I'm sorry, ita. This is, as you well know, so damn fucked. And finding the energy to manage it is nearly as hard as the disease itself. I'm glad your current neuro at least admits pain is a responsibility of his to manage.

Anyway, sympathy from a slightly less fucked continent of Migraine World. (I'm currently attempting to force Former Paradise to actually *give me* the disability insurance specified in the benefits list.)

I have nothing to offer but sincere sympathy; if you want, feel free to e-me and I can give you a list of the newest meds my specialists want to try on the very remote offchance there's something you haven't tried.