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Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strega - Nov 19, 2010 10:32:38 am PST #6347 of 30001

I wonder how often that Israeli procedure ends up stopping people on the autism spectrum or with other disabilities that make them behave "oddly."

I don't know if things immediately jump to "stopping" -- I assumed it's more "let's talk to that person a little more and doublecheck their ID," or something else that 1) is still part of SOP and 2) isn't humiliating and invasive. Because the same thing would also happen to people acting oddly because they're afraid of flying, or they're tired, or whatever. That's fine.

Well, it's not "fine," but at least that's a more reasonable process. It's the equivalent of a good cop checking in with "Everything okay here?" when something looks odd. Profiling based on behavior will turn up plenty of false positives. As long as you & security both know that, I think it's okay; knowing there's some reason behind it makes a big difference, at least to me.


Jesse - Nov 19, 2010 10:35:05 am PST #6348 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I've heard from more than one friend that they had to have an extensive interview when leaving Israel as a young American woman travelling alone, but not that they missed their flights or anything. But that's a profile they pay special attention, to, apparently. (Or did 5-10 years ago.)


Scrappy - Nov 19, 2010 10:38:42 am PST #6349 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I watch CM and Cold Case when the DH is out of town. I find the unraveling of a mystery is soothing somehow. Also, I find MGG verra verra cute.


Typo Boy - Nov 19, 2010 10:41:54 am PST #6350 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

i've heard from more than one friend that they had to have an extensive interview when leaving Israel as a young American woman travelling alone, but not that they missed their flights or anything. But that's a profile they pay special attention, to, apparently. (Or did 5-10 years ago.)

If they're looking for Rachel Corrie they already got her. Quite throughly.


Kathy A - Nov 19, 2010 10:44:48 am PST #6351 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Also, I find MGG verra verra cute.

He was smokin' in this week's ep, wasn't he? And his short hair is finally growing on me. Loved the contrast of him being the only one in business attire--even Hotch was wearing jeans (and very well, too).


flea - Nov 19, 2010 10:44:50 am PST #6352 of 30001
information libertarian

I was that young American woman leaving Israel alone, in 1996. Interview, luggage hand-checked, etc. But, not patted down or stripped or photographed naked!


Zenkitty - Nov 19, 2010 10:45:13 am PST #6353 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I totally read that as "Since I am cooking dope" and thought, "Scrappy! Step away from the cough medicine."

Yeah, I thought, "you're not supposed to say that online! How can we alibi you if you admit it?"


msbelle - Nov 19, 2010 10:45:55 am PST #6354 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

oh yeah, El Al would leave me standing places over and over again, just ignore me, then if I moved or tried to talk to someone new I would get finger wagged at. It was UBER frustrating.


megan walker - Nov 19, 2010 10:47:04 am PST #6355 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I've heard from more than one friend that they had to have an extensive interview when leaving Israel as a young American woman travelling alone, but not that they missed their flights or anything. But that's a profile they pay special attention, to, apparently. (Or did 5-10 years ago.)

I've been interviewed fairly regularly in line at the Paris airport. The most extensive was a little over 20 years ago when I had flown to visit my family shortly after my mother died. The agent stopped me because she thought "I looked upset." It wasn't the most fun I've had, but I thought it was perfectly reasonable.


zuisa - Nov 19, 2010 10:49:04 am PST #6356 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

I finally just updated my location on the map here. I feel significantly less awesome now that there's no person on the map in China, but now it's where I actually am, which was probably a good idea.

Work was rough today. There were lots more teachers out than substitutes available so they threw me in a lecture hall and 4-6 classes at a time. It was thrilling.

To actually reply to something being discussed, Israel's airport security seems so sensible to me. A quick interview is such a fantastic idea. I would assume Israel's bigger airports would be as busy as most US airports, right? With the exception of maybe LAX and O'Hare and things. I can't believe they get their screening process done so quickly. Ours just seems slow and inefficient.