There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amych - Nov 18, 2010 4:35:08 pm PST #6210 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

The anti-onerousness was an awesome idea, and I'd even be up for it weekly, although we should probably float between a couple of different times for maximum availability. Thanks, David, for getting the idea rolling - much easier to get through things with someone to have your back.


beekaytee - Nov 18, 2010 4:42:21 pm PST #6211 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Suzi, I notice on that Etsy link that the seller did a really good job of framing the ad around the 'feeling' of the object.

"Your family ornament will be on the tree for many years to come..."

The pricing is less about the relative value of the materials, or your time, but about the sensation the object creates in the buyer. As such, lower priced objects of art sell less well than the higher priced because the value is completely perception based. Look at the J. Peterman catalog for another good example of this.

If you can create a background story for your works, I'll bet you can ask the higher prices with confidence.

Also in that first ad, the photography totally supported the sale. Very upclose, well lit and creating a Christmas tableau. So. When you sell at the employee event, it might do well to create a 'scene.'

The last trade event I did, I covered my 6 foot table with beautiful fabric, displayed the actual lamp and plant on my table, set up the tea cups I use with clients and included some candles (it was winter) and the books I normally recommend.

Even though the event was in a typical convention area, people were drawn to my table because I offered atmosphere before the sale.

I bet something like that would work for you too. I suggest xmas cookies!


sarameg - Nov 18, 2010 4:45:56 pm PST #6212 of 30001

Schedule for the next few days: drop keys off, work, fix timecard (I was going to do that today, but had to do my annual ethics training) swim, clean at least the kitchen. Saturday: market purely to get my ass up (I'll just get empanadas) then do the fucking leaves. Swim, shop for a dress, maybe at least join neighbors for dinner, late night not advisable. Maybe clean some more. Sun: clean, swim and more dress shopping if I have no luck saturday. Pack. Go to bed, leave.


brenda m - Nov 18, 2010 4:47:38 pm PST #6213 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The anti-onerousness was an awesome idea, and I'd even be up for it weekly, although we should probably float between a couple of different times for maximum availability.

Ditto (especially since I've already thought of some other things). My suggestion might be weekly or biweekly, with volunteers to ring the bell, so to speak. So if amych has first half of December and I have second, say, we each pick a day and time that works and let everyone know, then remind at the time. Jan volunteers would do the same, etc.

Monthly might be more realistic to keep it going and remember and all? I don't know. But at least monthly would be awesome.


sarameg - Nov 18, 2010 4:49:18 pm PST #6214 of 30001

I have no time to xmas shop or practice cookie recipes. Ahrg.


Ginger - Nov 18, 2010 4:51:45 pm PST #6215 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Or fortnightly, because I like the word fortnightly.


Dana - Nov 18, 2010 4:52:38 pm PST #6216 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Who just mentioned Ensenda?

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SuziQ - Nov 18, 2010 4:56:22 pm PST #6217 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

people were drawn to my table because I offered atmosphere before the sale.

I have some lush red fabric to cover my table, with pretty shiny silver fabric to wrap around the bottom of my ornament stands. I can's have candles at work but I have a scent bug with some peppermint scent that I was going to bring with me. I even have a string of twinkle lights in case my table is near an outlet.

If/when I move to Etsy, I will have to improve my photography skills. The pictures I posted were taken quickly tonight to give a sense of what I was making.


Kathy A - Nov 18, 2010 4:56:44 pm PST #6218 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

That was me, Dana. Looks like my problem is a standard one ("attempted delivery" is bogus). I'm going to call them back now and see if they have any more info on today's attempt.


DavidS - Nov 18, 2010 5:05:12 pm PST #6219 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Or fortnightly, because I like the word fortnightly.

I was going to go for a month because I didn't want to crowd everybody but I think fortnightly could work. As long as the day itself floats from event to event so as to accommodate different schedules.

On a practical, personal level I think it would probably be a good practice for anybody to do weekly.

But in the group dynamic I think it'll have more effectiveness if it's spread out a bit. I just suspect that if it's a duty then it'll be easier to elide over.

It'd be kind of cool to have a random date generator within certain parameters. Like the next one could be in two weeks...or three and a half weeks. We don't know! Skinner says that irregular schedules (of reinforcement) are the hardest to break. Math people - to your algorithms.

I initiated it primarily because I know I'm avoidy and can let things drift. But I also know it's a Buffista trait so I'm glad to have so many people in on it.