Inara: Who's winning? Simon: I can't tell. They don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.

'Bushwhacked'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Nov 12, 2010 5:14:55 pm PST #5255 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I know back around the mid 2000s his stance on gay issues in general was a lot more accepting. It even seems to me he's moved much further to the right since losing the election.

Sadly, in recent years I have been forced to conclude he's a wanker.


DavidS - Nov 12, 2010 5:34:52 pm PST #5256 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yeah, I like Cindy way more than John at this point.

It's VERY unusual for a political spouse to go public with a differing view.

I vaguely remember Laura Bush very discretely being pro-choice.


Burrell - Nov 12, 2010 5:50:41 pm PST #5257 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

The left, ostensibly supporters of women's rights, seems unable to conceptualize a healthy marriage in which the wife does not fall in lock step with her husband's ideas.

it's in response to Cindy McCain being in the NOH8 video saying the US government policies and not allowing gays to serve in openly in the military has contributed to the culture of bullies against LGBT youth.

My guess is what's really irking your poster is the suspicion that the left is rather pleased with that she's willing to publically come out in favor of repealing DADT. But he can't say, "how dare you approve of her!" so he has to say "shame on you for finding her views noteworthy."

Hey, the points about the Ladies Bush makes me wonder, is there an equivalent example on the left of a political wife taking a much more conservative position.


Typo Boy - Nov 12, 2010 5:57:42 pm PST #5258 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Mary Matalin and James Carville. But then again I always suspect that their common ground is this: Two shepherds married to one another might differ strongly in how to treat the sheep they herded. But ultimately they would agree that the purpose of raising sheep is to produce wool and mutton. Similarly, both Carville and Maitalin are political consultants. I think whatever they disagree on, they both agree their ultimate job is to get their clients into power.


Burrell - Nov 12, 2010 6:00:56 pm PST #5259 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Mary Matalin and James Carville.

Interesting example, Typo. Of course, not really equivalent in that they are much more equal in terms of actual power wielded. NSM with Laura Bush and George W.


Kat - Nov 12, 2010 6:07:59 pm PST #5260 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Burrell, I wonder if you might have seen it with Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Martin Ginsburg. I don't really know what his political stances were, but the speech she gave this summer that he had written [link] seems to indicate that he, as tax attorney, was at least better suited to certain types of work, while she was better suited (more willing) to challenge things like dependent care deductions.

Don't know how much one would deduce from that.

OH! Maybe Margaret Thatcher and her husband could be another example?


Kat - Nov 12, 2010 6:08:40 pm PST #5261 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I realize I'm sort of going the way other direction -- looking for liberal women in power (or conservative women in power) with a spouse that is in a different place on the spectrum.


§ ita § - Nov 12, 2010 6:09:47 pm PST #5262 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not that they're in definite areas of power, but Prince Dickhead can always be relied on to say something Queen Elizabeth would never mention publically.

What's the rotation for woman's office clothes? Two weeks? More if it's a really obvious piece? One week for a guy, two if it stands out?


Kat - Nov 12, 2010 6:10:36 pm PST #5263 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I guess it might depend, ita, if you are talking suit or separates.


§ ita § - Nov 12, 2010 6:12:18 pm PST #5264 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you think an average suit has a shorter rotation? But I think men have more of those, and women may even stand out for their suit more.

Burrell--I deleted your and my comments in Press. I was guilty of not paying attention where I was posting.