Now, I can hold a note for a long time...actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after, and the one after that. That's what makes it music.

Host ,'Why We Fight'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Nov 12, 2010 3:32:26 pm PST #5243 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Aaron Sorkin explains his understanding of the plight of the little man.


Beverly - Nov 12, 2010 4:08:18 pm PST #5244 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Happy Birthday, Jess!


Cashmere - Nov 12, 2010 4:08:36 pm PST #5245 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Is he back on the 'shrooms?

We had another parent decide to hand out birthday party invitations to only a select few kids today at Olivia's 4K. I am so pissed off, I emailed the director. I couldn't care less that she wasn't invited but I am pissed that when asked about it, the teacher said that they, "told the invited kids not to talk about it in front of any of the other kids."

Um, yeah, a four year old can totally do that. That's why at pick up the invited kids were waving their envelopes around telling their parents that they got invited. Liv waved her report card envelope at me saying, "I got invited, too!" Then I had to tell her she wasn't.

Fucking BULLSHIT. Why are some parents such assholes???


Liese S. - Nov 12, 2010 4:12:15 pm PST #5246 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Oh, that's terrible Cash. Poor Liv.


Cashmere - Nov 12, 2010 4:28:27 pm PST #5247 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Wait until they read my next parenting column.


msbelle - Nov 12, 2010 4:29:01 pm PST #5248 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Ok I need some help wording something.

Someone wrote this on my fb: The left, ostensibly supporters of women's rights, seems unable to conceptualize a healthy marriage in which the wife does not fall in lock step with her husband's ideas.

it's in response to Cindy McCain being in the NOH8 video saying the US government policies and not allowing gays to serve in openly in the military has contributed to the culture of bullies against LGBT youth.

ok here's what I wrote this far "I don't think it's just the left that thinks opposing political views within a marriage is interesting enough to take note of, especially when the differing views are taken so public from within a high level elected official's family.

I don't see the connection between women's rights and finding this level of political disagreement within a family worth note and/or not so common. I do think the phrase lock-step is very loaded, though."


sarameg - Nov 12, 2010 4:41:22 pm PST #5249 of 30001

I think that works, msbelle. Or just a generic in today's politics, it is unusual for high profile political spouses to take opposing views public.

ION, OOF. Been going and going tonight. 66 laps in 63! minutes. With cooldown, got to 2 miles. Home, laundry, dinner, manicure, recycling out. Still haven't walked Loki. Morning: market, Ellicott City for a haircut. Am hoping to hit Target and TJ's in Columbia on that trip, if I have time. Then back, swim, get all dressed up, go to a thing @7. Sunday, rake leaves, try shopping for a dress, more laundry, swim.


Strega - Nov 12, 2010 4:48:23 pm PST #5250 of 30001

Aaron Sorkin explains his understanding of the plight of the little man.

I saw that yesterday, and sighed. He's an utter fuckwit. Given what I've heard about how Zuckerberg is portrayed in The Social Network, I'm starting to wonder if it's an inadvertent self-portrait of Sorkin himself.


Cashmere - Nov 12, 2010 4:54:10 pm PST #5251 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

It's VERY unusual for a political spouse to go public with a differing view. On both sides of the political fence.

I'd be quicker to assume those of a conservative political bent would find it difficult to grasp the concept of a spouse embracing differing political and social views--especially if it's the wife.

Maybe that's where the poster is coming from--why is the liberal left taking note of Cindy McCain's publicly expressed opinion on DADT? They shouldn't get worked up about it if they're so into women's right and how she should be able to express her views.

However, I don't think the left is expressing surprise at her holding her own opinion--merely that she's expressing it so openly, which is not a typical political spouse thing to do.

It was the same situation when Barbara Bush came out in the media as saying she supported a woman's right to choose, when her husband stated his political pro-life stance.


Jessica - Nov 12, 2010 5:04:57 pm PST #5252 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

However, I don't think the left is expressing surprise at her holding her own opinion--merely that she's expressing it so openly, which is not a typical political spouse thing to do.

I think a lot of it also has to do with John McCain's ever-shifting stance on the matter - at one point he said bluntly that he would support a repeal, but has been backpedaling ever since. So you have to wonder how he feels about it at home, and how much of his official opinion on the matter is political posturing.