No. You're missing the point. The design of the thing is functional. The plan is not to shoot you. The plan is to get the girl. If there's no girl, then the plan, well, is like the room.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Jun 15, 2010 8:38:55 am PDT #6686 of 30001
Where do you come from? Where do you go? What is your scene, baby? We just gotta know.

British PM apologizes for Bloody Sunday


§ ita § - Jun 15, 2010 8:41:20 am PDT #6687 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That must have started after I stopped reading. As far as I got, it was all "props to her" with some "maybe I wouldn't have said it *that* way, but still...brave of her to say it." I got bored.

But I've never got Eva Mendes anyway. I think she's a crap actress and not that pretty, so there's not that much I'm going to read about her.


Daisy Jane - Jun 15, 2010 8:50:48 am PDT #6688 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I think she looks lovely, but that quote was...what was that? I (usually) really love being married to Jon, but I don't think I would even off-handedly refer to our relationship as one where "belonging" would enter into it. I just don't see it that way.

Though I guess we do have strange ownership language when it comes to personal relationships. It's all MY wife, and a friend of MINE, and we HAVE a mom.


§ ita § - Jun 15, 2010 8:54:51 am PDT #6689 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Though I guess we do have strange ownership language when it comes to personal relationships. It's all MY wife, and a friend of MINE, and we HAVE a mom.

I don't think that is strange at all. I mean, one wants to distinguish this wife from someone else's wife--wife is a relationship, after all, as is friend and mother.

Woman? Not so much. I might want to be someone's wife or girlfriend, but I can't imagine ever being someone's woman. That's just weird.


Polter-Cow - Jun 15, 2010 8:57:13 am PDT #6690 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

You're like that White Town song!


Daisy Jane - Jun 15, 2010 9:03:10 am PDT #6691 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I don't think that is strange at all. I mean, one wants to distinguish this wife from someone else's wife--wife is a relationship, after all, as is friend and mother.

It seems like it's describing owning the person is all, not the relationship. Mother conjures an image of a female person.

I'm not really advocating/protesting anything here. Just noting something I find itchy when describing relationships, because yeah, Jon doesn't even jokingly refer to me as his woman.


Zenkitty - Jun 15, 2010 9:12:08 am PDT #6692 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Some science fiction series - might have been Retief - had an alien race whose language had different possessive pronouns depending not only of the sex of the speaker, but on the relationship/thing being referred to.

So the "my" in "my mother" (family-person) was different than the "my" in "my friend" (non-family person) and the "my" in "my tractor" (thing). I thought it was a brilliant idea and all languages should immediately adopt it. (They didn't.)


Miracleman - Jun 15, 2010 9:14:29 am PDT #6693 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Terminator Jesus

"Come with me if you want to live...in eternal paradise, assuming you repent of your sins."


Frankenbuddha - Jun 15, 2010 9:15:52 am PDT #6694 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Terminator Jesus

It certainly gives the line "I'll be back." a whole new meaning.


Stephanie - Jun 15, 2010 9:30:10 am PDT #6695 of 30001
Trust my rage

Univision is great! A bit jumpy but probably better announcers.