I'm not sure how old he is, but I heard him use the word 'newfangled' one time, so he's gotta be pretty far gone.

Dawn ,'Beneath You'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Sep 01, 2010 8:55:39 am PDT #21585 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

"Protect Mike Rowe!"

I can get with that sentiment.


§ ita § - Sep 01, 2010 8:59:29 am PDT #21586 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I watched the first season of Weeds, and it didn't grab me.

All I really remember about the A-Team was having to break Hannibal out of the big house, since that's how we talked about getting my grandfather from the nursing home for the day...

Ah, jailbreaks. New category.

I totally overindentify with my name. Names. My birth name and my capoeira name. I get pissed when other people have them, or misuse mine. I should let go, because uniqueness is not in the job description. But it's something I kinda got used to.

Still, I feel a great deal of respect for what people choose to call themselves, even if I think it's a weird-assed choice. It's theirs, and I don't get to change it with impunity.

Firefly! Totally criminals we're supposed to love. In the bigger picture they're against an oppressive government, but still.


-t - Sep 01, 2010 8:59:55 am PDT #21587 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't watch Weeds or Breaking Bad, but the theory holds that they're consensual type crimes (oh! Hung and Diary of a Call Girl or whatever also count in this category).

Breaking Bad is a lot closer to the Sopranos, morally and ethically. The main character would really like to justify his wrongdoing (more so than Tony Soprano, probably) but he really can't.


Jessica - Sep 01, 2010 9:00:48 am PDT #21588 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh Christ, I hope it's resolved peacefully. I have a ton of colleages in that building.


Aims - Sep 01, 2010 9:00:55 am PDT #21589 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I watched the first season of Weeds, and it didn't grab me.

Well ... then ....

Fine.


§ ita § - Sep 01, 2010 9:02:21 am PDT #21590 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The main character would really like to justify his wrongdoing (more so than Tony Soprano, probably) but he really can't.

Tell me more. I watched enough of the Sopranos to know they victimised innocents, but I don't know that much about Breaking Bad. Do you know enough to compare it to Weeds?


Daisy Jane - Sep 01, 2010 9:02:46 am PDT #21591 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I hope so too, Jessica. Hopefully your colleagues were evacuated.


Jessica - Sep 01, 2010 9:06:33 am PDT #21592 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The news reports I'm reading now say the immediate area was evacuated, but not the Discovery building itself.


Daisy Jane - Sep 01, 2010 9:07:56 am PDT #21593 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I just now saw the local story, and yeah. People seem to be holed up in offices.


-t - Sep 01, 2010 9:10:55 am PDT #21594 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I watched Weeds for a while. I don't know if it's a good comparison for Breaking Bad, other than they both have to do with illegal drug distribution.

I haven't watched the last half of the most recent season, yet, but I'd say the main theme of Breaking Bad is the journey from exploring this whole meth cooking thing as sort of a reasonable response of the main character to a truly terrible situation to the growing realization that all those choices he made that kept getting him deeper (into the underworld and into his own darkness) were not really things he was forced to, but options he preferred. It's dark dark dark and kind of harrowing (which is why I haven't finished watching) but really really good.