Dancing With the Stars doesn't need a reason. The frothy inanity of DWtS is above such petty concerns as what the "stars" are famous for.

Eta: I haven't watched it in a couple-three seasons, but Kurt Warner may get me back. That's just so bizarre.

Yay Perkins!

Yay msbelle!

Trudy, I'm right there with you. No word from NY yet, and I'm nervous. {{hugs to you}}

I admire all of you who were politically conscious enough to question saying the Pledge of Allegiance at such a young age. We said it every morning in elementary school, and I never gave it a second thought.

In eighth grade, our teacher had us say the Act of Contrition ("Oh my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee, and I detest all my since because of Thy just punishment, etc...) before we left for the day, in case (in her words) we died on the bus on the way home, so that we wouldn't have mortal sins on our souls. I thought it was hilariously morbid and creepy, and I'm not actually sure it was entirely dogmatically sound, if you believe in all that jazz.

She's been in the news two or three times. Apparently that counts as "celebrity" now?

She's been in the news two or three times. Apparently that counts as "celebrity" now?

She was in the news for BEING A TEENAGE MOTHER!!

Hey society!! Want to decrease the number of teenage mothers? Allow birth control to be taught in public schools and STOP GLORIFYING TEENAGE PREGNANCY! (16 and Pregnant, I'm looking at you.)

I'm sorry - you'll have to leave a message. Aimee is under her desk looking for her rolled eyes.

We did that stand-and-say-the-pledge thing every morning in elementary school; I don't think it went on into jr. high but I'm not positive since I think I've blocked out most of those years.

But, I know many people who feel if you don't recite it then you're not a good American and you're not patriotic and all that vitriol

I always wonder if people like this have heard of this amazing thing called "lying." I've said the pledge many times; I've never meant it.

These folks also tend to get very indignant when you say they've been "lucky"; they see themselves as having worked hard for everything they've gotten.

Yeah, I vividly remember a kid at camp declaring, "Well my dad works REALLY HARD" and my replying, "Harder than a ditch-digger? Ditch-diggers work hard too. So do people pulling double shifts at McDonalds. None of their kids have what you have."

He was sort of amazed. It had never occured to him poor people work hard.

We had the pledge every morning over the loud speaker all the way through school. I think I first heard the words in seventh or eighth grade and stopped saying them. In High School I'd just sit quietly. Only one person ever gave me shit and I told him, "I don't pray to pieces of cloth."

It offends me equally as a religious person and as an American.

She was big national name during the campaign and daughter of one of the biggest media and political figures of the time, it doesn't at all seem odd to me she'd be considered a celebrity.

backatcha, Amyth!!

She was big national name during the campaign and daughter of one of the biggest media and political figures of the time, it doesn't at all seem odd to me she'd be considered a celebrity.

I think that she was a name only because she got pregnant. Otherwise, she just would have been Sarah Palin's eldest daughter.

I think that she was a name only because she got pregnant.

Absolutely.