I kissed him, and I told him that I loved him. And I killed him.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Aug 27, 2010 9:00:56 am PDT #20653 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

"When the economy is bad and people are uncomfortable about their financial future, they tend to postpone having children. We saw that in the Great Depression the 1930s and we're seeing that in the Great Recession today," said Andrew Cherlin, a sociology professor at Johns Hopkins University.

There's also the fact that I've seen that for people near or at the poverty line, childcare costs are %50 of income, even above that it's something like %25.


tommyrot - Aug 27, 2010 9:03:14 am PDT #20654 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

for people near or at the poverty line, childcare costs are %50 of income

Yikes! I did not know that.


Zenkitty - Aug 27, 2010 9:05:36 am PDT #20655 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

How are they even allowed to get away with that? How is that not illegal?


flea - Aug 27, 2010 9:05:42 am PDT #20656 of 30001
information libertarian

I can vouch for that. My annual child care costs have always run around $12K; sometimes more.


Daisy Jane - Aug 27, 2010 9:06:28 am PDT #20657 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

That's like...a car a year!


Jessica - Aug 27, 2010 9:10:17 am PDT #20658 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My annual child care costs have always run around $12K; sometimes more.

Yeah, that sounds about right.


Sparky1 - Aug 27, 2010 9:11:39 am PDT #20659 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

$12K

::weeps::


DavidS - Aug 27, 2010 9:13:27 am PDT #20660 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That's like...a car a year!

They are very expensive.


flea - Aug 27, 2010 9:14:26 am PDT #20661 of 30001
information libertarian

Major cities worse, of course, poor Sparky. (Athens GA, $125 a week per kid is standard; Durham NC major centers were $1200-$1400 a month for an infant. I remained stunned by how cheap it is down here.)


Jesse - Aug 27, 2010 9:14:34 am PDT #20662 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If you have to pay for childcare, there's only so cheap it can get in the first few years. New York State has "universal pre-kindergarten," but it's only a partial day, so you'd still have to pay for the rest of the time, assuming full-time work. Even on a sliding scale, it's not that cheap....

Oh! I just realized I can blame Cee-Lo for the fact that I said "Fuck you!" right to my coworker's face at lunch. In a jovial way, but still. (She was saying that Kat von D isn't an artist.)