Time for some thrilling heroics.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Atropa - Aug 10, 2010 4:08:09 pm PDT #17265 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I've had good luck finding thrift finds at stores affiliated with specific charities.

Fluevogs. Size 7.5 - 8.5. IJS ...


SuziQ - Aug 10, 2010 4:27:23 pm PDT #17266 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Guess what showed up in my mail box today? The current assembly of nail polish exchange items!! Do I go through them now or wait for Kelly to come home?


Cashmere - Aug 10, 2010 4:41:41 pm PDT #17267 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

So obsessively combing the sex offender database has revealed ANOTHER sex offender on my FB friends list. A Wisconsin person who friended me through another friend.

Excuse me while I go purge my friend list. I'm going to throw up. I should just start running criminal background checks.


§ ita § - Aug 10, 2010 4:43:40 pm PDT #17268 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jesus, Cash. You're making me paranoid. But I have no kids to protect. I can't believe you found a friend of Owen's father. Good thing you know now.


Amy - Aug 10, 2010 4:48:23 pm PDT #17269 of 30001
Because books.

So obsessively combing the sex offender database has revealed ANOTHER sex offender on my FB friends list.

Oh, wow. That's really disturbing.

I checked the database here last summer, and there were more than twenty offenders in this town alone, which is not that big, and that freaked me out. But I didn't *know* any of them.


Zenkitty - Aug 10, 2010 4:53:45 pm PDT #17270 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Jesus Christ, Cash.


Cashmere - Aug 10, 2010 4:56:17 pm PDT #17271 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Jesus Christ, Cash.

That's exactly what I said out loud! I need to get off this list before I lose it.


sarameg - Aug 10, 2010 5:02:42 pm PDT #17272 of 30001

A well liked former coworker (well, I found him annoying) was caught and convicted of looking at underage porn on gov't computers several years ago. It was...yeah. A lot of really upset people, all finding out through word of mouth. There was very little coverage.


DavidS - Aug 10, 2010 5:08:11 pm PDT #17273 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I checked the database here last summer, and there were more than twenty offenders in this town alone, which is not that big, and that freaked me out.

I will note that when I worked for my friend Cecily (a criminal defense attorney) she talked a little bit about how punitive the sex offender lists are and how they're impossible to get off no matter what you do afterwords. She had clients who had been Good Citizens for twenty years who were on the list for acts they committed when they were young. And they couldn't get jobs and couldn't live in a lot of places. The punishment winds up going on long after their time in jail.

Also, people do wind up on the lists sometimes for things like statutory rape which the courts, prosecutors and defense attorneys do not consider to be a big deal.

Which is not to say that there aren't predators and you don't need to be careful. But the lists cast a wide net and there are people on it who are not a risk to anybody anymore.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 10, 2010 5:12:46 pm PDT #17274 of 30001
What is even happening?

Oh, Lisa. I'm so sorry. I check it every so often. There is a sex-offender not too far from here, but no one we know -- no one the kids know. It is puke-makingly scary.

Before I resigned from the Christian Education committee at church, we got word that one of our congregants was a past sex offender (on a comparatively mild charge, and we got it through the grapevine, but it was verifiable enough).

At the time, I wasn't only chairing the CE committee, I was Sunday School Superintendent. Our church Council (this is a congregational church, so basically the model for representative gov't in this country) is the ruling body (second only to the congregation), made up of the chairs of all the committees. Council is the one that got word of the S.O. They're the ones that broke the news to me. They already had a decision -- all children under a certain grade had to be escorted from Sunday School to the vestry after Sunday School (which happens during the service and ends about the same time). I delivered it to the teachers at the time.

I'd already implemented state background checks on all teachers and national S.O. registry checks, too. While I was chief bitch in charge, we also ensured that all classrooms had two (checked) adults, so that one adult was never alone with the kids (this was already a liability insurance mandate, but our compliance was 50/50 before my tenure).

I resigned because one of the teachers gave me a ration of shit (IN FRONT OF THE KIDS), because she had to walk her second and third grade students (which, at the time, included my youngest kid and HER youngest kid) down to the vestry, rather than dismissing them and allowing them to walk down alone.

I still have a hard time returning to the church. Not because I think any kids are at risk. This was a one off. They're no more at risk than at McDonald's and probably far less. I have a hard time, because this woman was so fricking offended that she had to walk the kids down to the coffee hour where their parents were waiting. I still don't get it, as either an administrator or a parent. What bugs extra is that she's a public school teacher, so she is not unacquainted with. It also bugs how nasty and riled up she got with me, in front of the kids. I went home and cried for (not exaggerating) 3 days. Then I snapped out of it and said, "Fuck her, then." Because really? Fuck her then.

I'm not sure how or why my sympathizing turned into an all-about-me spew. It wasn't meant to, but I've been holding it in forever and it feels so good to let it go, because Fuck her, then.