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Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Feb 19, 2010 10:52:28 am PST #9446 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

The costs for the breaks (w/ replacing the rotors) and the oxygen sensor seem pretty normal to me. The rotors may need to be replaced, I don't know, it just sounds odd especially at 30,000 files.

Changing the transmission fluid at 30,000 is like changing the oil at 3,000 miles. It's this rule that no longer applies to most cars, but shops still follow it, probably because it's good for their business. I don't think they're trying to rip you off, they're just following the outdated rule.


Stephanie - Feb 19, 2010 10:57:15 am PST #9447 of 30001
Trust my rage

Jess, it's good to see you. You have been in my thoughts so much these last few days.

I was told bath was okay after a D&C. I not sure about a D&E.


Amy - Feb 19, 2010 11:03:30 am PST #9448 of 30001
Because books.

Jess, we've all been thinking so much about you.

I'm not sure what it would hurt to take a bath. I don't think I would shower if you're home alone, though.


Kathy A - Feb 19, 2010 11:04:36 am PST #9449 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Changing the transmission fluid at 30,000 is like changing the oil at 3,000 miles. It's this rule that no longer applies to most cars, but shops still follow it, probably because it's good for their business. I don't think they're trying to rip you off, they're just following the outdated rule.

The guy at the shop explained it to me by saying that he still does the 30K recommendation even though the manufacturers have doubled it because they haven't changed the type of fluid being used. There are a few European cars using more exotic fluid that he follows the recommendations on, but not cars with the same old fluid as before. He said that he feels that the manufacturers just increased the number to make their ratings better, and he has seen more transmissions come into the shop with problems when people stick with the new numbers.


flea - Feb 19, 2010 11:06:03 am PST #9450 of 30001
information libertarian

Jessica, I'm glad to see you. You could sit on a plastic stool (what house with a 2 year old does not have multiple plastic stools!) in the shower.


Sparky1 - Feb 19, 2010 11:07:05 am PST #9451 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Jessica, you've been in my thoughts. It's good to see your pixels.

My thought would be not to take the bath and give your cervix a chance to heal.


JZ - Feb 19, 2010 11:07:39 am PST #9452 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Jess, even if you don't feel safe doing a full immersion bath you should be able to sit in the tub and do a sponge/washcloth bath, no problem at all. And you'll feel so much better, just being clean and not smelly.

I'm so glad you checked in. You're being thought of and vibed at nonstop.


Sparky1 - Feb 19, 2010 11:09:52 am PST #9453 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

The rest of the WSJ article:

Disney, the company that created "the happiest place on earth" and cornered the market on pink, is embracing a darker aesthetic as it reaches out to an unlikely audience for new merchandise: female "goths."

In the run-up to the March 5 opening of director Tim Burton's movie "Alice in Wonderland," Walt Disney Co.'s Click for Enhanced Coverage Linking Searchesconsumer-products division is aiming its marketing firepower at young women and teenage girls, particularly those who gravitate to darkly romantic entertainment like the "Twilight" series.

The soundtrack album features goth icon Robert Smith, lead singer of the Cure, performing a song from Disney's Click for Enhanced Coverage Linking Searches1951 "Alice in Wonderland."

While the movie itself is aimed at a much wider audience, ground zero of the marketing effort is Hot Topic Inc., Click for Enhanced Coverage Linking Searchesa mall-based retail chain that is a shopping destination for 12-to-22-year-old goths, whose favorite color tends to be black, whether for clothes or makeup.

Disney has licensed an extensive line of clothing and accessories to Hot Topic's 680 locations. The selection includes a black shackle bracelet for $10.

The approach represents a twist on Disney's Click for Enhanced Coverage Linking Searchessuccessful strategy of turning its "princess" movies into merchandizing juggernauts. What's distinctive about the new initiative is the target audience. Disney Consumer Products Click for Enhanced Coverage Linking SearchesChairman Andy Mooney says the buyers of "Alice" merchandise are "definitely more 18 to 34 than our traditional 6 to 11."

Some of the prices are more grown-up, too. Designer Stella McCartney will have jewelry inspired by the movie in her boutiques and items designed by Tom Binns will be for sale at Macy's and specialty stores. Mr. Binns's "Smashing Time" tea party necklace comprising dozens of tiny ceramic cups and teapots is listed at $1,000.

Neiman Marcus, Saks Fifth Avenue and other department stores are to carry a line of Victorian-style frocks by Los Angeles designer Sue Wong, with price tags as high as $600.

Hot Topic has redesigned the interior of one Los Angeles store as a miniature Wonderland, replete with oversized toadstools and rabbit hole-style entryway from the third level of the Hollywood & Highland mall.

Other locations are using window decals and displays of T-shirts, hats and jewelry inspired by the Cheshire Cat, the Red Queen and other characters. The chain rolled out its "Alice" displays just after Thanksgiving, taking over prime display real estate previously held by promotional merchandise for "The Twilight Saga: New Moon."

In lieu of a U.S. premiere for industry insiders, Disney and Hot Topic plan to host a massive event Friday at the Hollywood mall where several cast members -- including Johnny Depp, who plays the Mad Hatter -- are slated to mingle with fans. Several goth-pop bands from the soundtrack are to perform.

In targeting such a wide range of price points, the "Alice" campaign is expanding a tactic developed for the high-end "Disney Couture" and "Disney Signature" lines. Several years ago, the company licensed Mickey Mouse to Dolce & Gabbana for a line of high-end T-shirts that were sold in fashion-forward stores like Colette in Paris. Mass-market retailers such as Carrefour carried lower-priced versions.

Disney doesn't expect "Alice" to become a machine on a par with the "Toy Story" franchise, which has generated $8 billion in merchandise sales to date.

Nonetheless, marketing to goths might not be as much of a stretch for Disney as it seems at first blush. The company has a perennial business selling merchandise associated with "The Nightmare Before Christmas," the dark-hued 1993 animated film written by Mr. Burton.

Disney has hopes that "Alice" will inspire similar repeat business in the springtime.

"If higher-end designers are on it," says Mr. Mooney, "the chances are that the aesthetic will live on for a (continued...)


Sparky1 - Feb 19, 2010 11:09:53 am PST #9454 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

( continues...) couple years."

Still, Mr. Mooney is circumspect, acknowledging that even die-hard adult Disney fans can be "fashion fickle."


Daisy Jane - Feb 19, 2010 11:12:57 am PST #9455 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I am pretty sure I was told not to. In fact, I remember Jon bringing me hot water in bowls so I could sponge bath.

I haven't checked Beep Me. But from the context here, I think JZ is right.