Lorne: You know what they say about people who need people. Connor: They're the luckiest people in the world. Lorne: You been sneaking peeks at my Streisand collection again, Kiddo? Connor: Just kinda popped out.

'Time Bomb'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Feb 14, 2010 6:52:57 am PST #8358 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Not sure if this has been linked to before: List of common misconceptions

I knew most of them.


Tom Scola - Feb 14, 2010 6:55:05 am PST #8359 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Thanks to the miracle of science, there are now indoor pants that you can wear outdoors!

PajamaJeans™


Sue - Feb 14, 2010 6:57:31 am PST #8360 of 30001
hip deep in pie

Kevin Smith was kicked off a Southwest flight, after already being seated, for being too fat. He's stirring the shit on Twitter. I don't think this will end well for Southwest.

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Jesse - Feb 14, 2010 7:03:53 am PST #8361 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I like that he's going back and forth with Neil Gaiman on the twitter: [link]


Steph L. - Feb 14, 2010 7:05:56 am PST #8362 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I don't think this will end well for Southwest.

Good. I can't articulate how much I hate their policy (though other airlines do it, too; Southwest's just tends to be the best-known, or possibly the one that's been publicized the longest, or something; maybe they're just forever linked in my brain with being bastards). Fuck 'em.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 14, 2010 8:26:35 am PST #8363 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm of two minds on the issue. Yes, things could be handled better by the airline, in this instance and others. But on the other hand, all the political correctness in the world won't actually make a large person fit into a space smaller than their body and it is a major imposition for such a person to squish another passenger out of part of their seat.


Steph L. - Feb 14, 2010 8:33:59 am PST #8364 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

it is a major imposition for such a person to squish another passenger out of part of their seat.

If airlines actually enforced the policy equitably, I'd be less cranky about it. However, they seem most concerned with people whose hip/ass/stomach area is larger than average, instead of people whose upper bodies -- broad shoulders, large chest/upper abdomen -- are larger than average. I've sat next to men whose upper bodies didn't fit within the dimensions of their seats, and that squished me out of part of my seat.

But right now the airlines' policies are strictly about whether the armrests can be put down, and/or whether the seat belt will fit without an extender. Those measure lower-body mass, not upper body. So I guess the question is, is it more of an imposition for someone's hip to be touching the passenger next to them than it is for someone's shoulders/upper body to be touching the passenger next to them?


brenda m - Feb 14, 2010 8:37:18 am PST #8365 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

And the airlines have created some of this problem by reducing the size and space so severely. I've been on flights where my hips barely cleared the armrests without twisting as I sat down, and I have no fucking hips to speak of. The combination of this and flying the flights so full has left them with no room to accomodate, and it really should be on them to do so.


§ ita § - Feb 14, 2010 8:45:42 am PST #8366 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

right now the airlines' policies are strictly about whether the armrests can be put down

If the armrest can't go down, that's a big deal for me. I mean, if that's my armrest too. I couldn't care less about a seatbelt's extension. But my (completely vain, but still pursued) goal is to be able to ignore everyone else on the flight. Touching me (like what happened on my flight out to NO) or losing my armrest is really annoying.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 14, 2010 8:47:29 am PST #8367 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I can kind of see it as a matter of pragmatism though - they have seats with dividers right there that can be used as a measure, rather than having flight attendants make a judgement call about the space at shoulder height.

A few rows of wider non-first class seating available for heavier passengers would help. Though I'm sure there would be entitled smaller-sized people sqwawking because they weren't being given first choice of the comfier seats.