Mal: Well said. Wasn't that well said, Zoe? Zoe: Had a kind poetry to it, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


P.M. Marc - Feb 08, 2010 9:49:44 am PST #7097 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

My dad would argue that deregulation ruined airlines.

I've heard this a lot, though mind you, usually from people who work for airlines. But it maps closely enough to what I've seen in *other* industries that I can't just dismiss it out of hand as sour grapes from workers.

As for telco dereg, the media consolidation that followed wasn't what I'd call a net positive for humanity.


Calli - Feb 08, 2010 9:50:47 am PST #7098 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Go you, sarameg!


Typo Boy - Feb 08, 2010 9:53:41 am PST #7099 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

As for telco dereg, the media consolidation that followed wasn't what I'd call a net positive for humanity.

I will note that usual benefits touted for telco dereg, cell phones, broad band and so forth were achieved in many other nations WITHOUT dereg. Dereg is one path, and a lot of nations took it, but there are other paths that work as well or better. I will note that broadband in the U.S. is slower than in many other nations, and is not available everywhere. Lots of poor rural areas don't have decent broadband available, and a fair number of poor urban areas as well.


Connie Neil - Feb 08, 2010 10:06:31 am PST #7100 of 30001
brillig

Lots of poor rural areas don't have decent broadband available, and a fair number of poor urban areas as well.

'Cause there's not enough money in it, and without regulations the companies have no reason to put themselves out by serving those areas.


Sparky1 - Feb 08, 2010 10:10:35 am PST #7101 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Yay, sarameg! Now, if you want to visit me for the next storm . . .

It looks like my DH is going to have a plane and that it will be leaving on time for Vienna! He was so sure he wasn't going anywhere he didn't pack until the last minute.


sarameg - Feb 08, 2010 10:14:41 am PST #7102 of 30001

Boo, pool closed!


Gudanov - Feb 08, 2010 10:15:15 am PST #7103 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

As for telco dereg, the media consolidation that followed wasn't what I'd call a net positive for humanity.

Well, I'd agree there are some mergers that I don't think should have gone through, but it did open up the market. Ideally, I do think there should be restrictions on controlling all of the media in a region.

Dereg is one path, and a lot of nations took it, but there are other paths that work as well or better.

I think that's a reasonable counterpoint. However, I would still say that telco dereg is conservative minded legislation that did improve things. Though, again, done during the Clinton administration. For all the sh*t Clinton took from the right, he delivered better for Republicans (with the exception of Supreme Court nominees though you can claim Bush Sr. only broke even on that point) than any other president since Reagan.


sarameg - Feb 08, 2010 10:30:49 am PST #7104 of 30001

Proof: [link]

This was before: [link] [link]

After: [link]


Jesse - Feb 08, 2010 10:33:32 am PST #7105 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Woah -- that is CLEARED.


Dana - Feb 08, 2010 10:38:08 am PST #7106 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

More ovary-tugging, courtesy of Drew Brees and his son:

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