Overwhelming? How much more than whelming would that be exactly?

Anya ,'Touched'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Feb 26, 2010 5:35:33 pm PST #11687 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I share a name with my paternal Great-Grandmother who was Elizabeth Kathryn Vehre.

I love Farmers' Market. We went this week. All we got were sprouts and daffodils, but still very happymaking.

We had wings for dinner at a sports bar. I was almost ballistic with the manager who wanted to change one of the 8 bajillion TVs off of Women's Curling.


tommyrot - Feb 26, 2010 5:48:04 pm PST #11688 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Curmudgeonly essay on "Why the Internet Will Fail" from 1995

In 1995, astronomer, amateur hacker tracker and Klein-bottle maker Clifford Stoll wrote an essay (and a book, too, but I haven't read that) explaining why this Internet thing will never work. His main argument seems to be, "Hardware and software will all top out in the mid-90s and, thus, the Internet will never ever get any more user friendly or portable. Also, it is different and scary." Hilarity ensues.

The truth is no online database will replace your daily newspaper, no CD-ROM can take the place of a competent teacher and no computer network will change the way government works ...

What the Internet hucksters won't tell you is that the Internet is one big ocean of unedited data, without any pretense of completeness. Lacking editors, reviewers or critics, the Internet has become a wasteland of unfiltered data. You don't know what to ignore and what's worth reading. Logged onto the World Wide Web, I hunt for the date of the Battle of Trafalgar. Hundreds of files show up, and it takes 15 minutes to unravel them—one's a biography written by an eighth grader, the second is a computer game that doesn't work and the third is an image of a London monument. None answers my question, and my search is periodically interrupted by messages like, "Too many connections, try again later." ....

Even if there were a trustworthy way to send money over the Internet-which there isn't-the network is missing a most essential ingredient of capitalism: salespeople.

I wonder what that guy is doing now?


Aims - Feb 26, 2010 5:50:03 pm PST #11689 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Downloading porn and thanking God every day for it.


sarameg - Feb 26, 2010 5:51:59 pm PST #11690 of 30001

Would it be crazy to buy a saltlick and plant it next to my downspout during the winter? (icing up, but not enough to fuck with my walls, but still.)


bon bon - Feb 26, 2010 5:59:48 pm PST #11691 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Stoll was a pretty accomplished hacker at that point, not a neophyte. Read charitably, it's not completely off base. He's not claiming the internet will fail, but that rosy-eyed futurists are expecting miracles from a system that does not totally replicate the human touch. It's not like it's something people don't say today.


Kathy A - Feb 26, 2010 6:20:54 pm PST #11692 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I still love rereading Stoll's book The Cuckoo's Egg.


Liese S. - Feb 26, 2010 6:34:30 pm PST #11693 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Okay. Canning is on its way. The SO`s fabulous salsa using our winter sunroom garden jalapenos is going under pressure. Whoo! Of course I`m not entirely thrilled that the SO did his part of the cooking timed unfortunately so I`m missing the end of Slovakia/Canada. But that`s okay! Go Slovakia.


Kat - Feb 26, 2010 6:46:50 pm PST #11694 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Liese, they missed an open net goal. That's BAD.


Liese S. - Feb 26, 2010 6:54:46 pm PST #11695 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I got to see the end after all while the canner was venting. That was CRAZY! I cannot believe it was that close. Demitra got two big opportunities there at the end. Well, they can still medal, and I think against the Finns they will. But sheesh! This Olympics is all exciting all the time.


Sue - Feb 26, 2010 6:56:20 pm PST #11696 of 30001
hip deep in pie

That last minute was heart attack time.