Nice acronym, Mom!

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Nov 24, 2009 5:08:07 am PST #21068 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Hey! Fake AP Stylebook is mocking us!


erikaj - Nov 24, 2009 5:11:06 am PST #21069 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

KO said yesterday that Reagan would fail that Reagan test.


tommyrot - Nov 24, 2009 5:26:55 am PST #21070 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Attack of Literacy!

t-shrit, on sale for $12!


Gudanov - Nov 24, 2009 5:28:18 am PST #21071 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill; Unless they are in control of the government apparently. Both parties suck at this because cutting the budget in any significant way is really, really hard. Does anyone want to cut back on social security, weaken medicare, or make big cuts to the defense budget?

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run healthcare; Unless it's Medicare or the VA. Not to mention government run healthcare isn't in the bill. The public option and exchanges are government run insurance and aren't mandatory.

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation; What energy reforms? Cap and trade is to some extent market-based. This should be do they support carbon emission controls or not.

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check; I don't know enough about this issue to have a good opinion

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants; A reasonable stand

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges; Do they want to increase troop levels in Iraq and violate the agreement with the Iraq government negotiated by the Bush administration? What does victory mean in Afghanistan? Russians can tell you that increasing troops isn't the only factor.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat; Whatever that means.

(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act; Reasonable stand. I disagree, but at least it's specific.

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing, denial of health care and government funding of abortion; The purpose of health care reform is to expand coverage, the current system already is effective at denying and rationing care. Perfectly reasonable to oppose government funding of abortion though, though I think the current house legislation goes beyond that to blocking private funding too.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership; Perfectly fine. I agree that the second amendment cannot be ignored, though I might quibble with a few points where I don't think there is a violation.

A couple of actual specific stands and a bunch of hot air. Meh.


Gudanov - Nov 24, 2009 5:29:31 am PST #21072 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

It's kind of sweet that they take the 8 out of 10 thing so literally. Almost like it was a verse out of revelation.

You gotta love that "WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan also believed the Republican Party should welcome those with diverse views;" is in the same document.


Gudanov - Nov 24, 2009 5:31:28 am PST #21073 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

I imagine the Democratic purity test would be.

(1) We agree to call ourselves Democrats.

I think that's about the extent of what you could do.


Jessica - Nov 24, 2009 5:31:59 am PST #21074 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat; Whatever that means.

We're going to turn a big glass jar upside down over Iran and North Korea and then slide a piece of cardboard underneath to make sure they're contained.


tommyrot - Nov 24, 2009 5:32:55 am PST #21075 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

We're going to turn a big glass jar upside down over Iran and North Korea and then slide a piece of cardboard underneath to make sure they're contained.

DOME!

</Homer>


smonster - Nov 24, 2009 5:43:09 am PST #21076 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Perfectly reasonable to oppose government funding of abortion

Not wanting to open a can of worms, but I disagree. It's a legal medical procedure. Are other legal medical procedures specifically blocked from coverage under the public option? As others have noted, we as Americans don't generally get to choose where our tax dollars go, or mine wouldn't be going to fund industrial farming, etc.

though I think the current house legislation goes beyond that to blocking private funding too.

My understanding is that the amendment states that if you get any public subsidy, your private insurance may not cover your abortion using public funds. Or something. Which enrages me b/c the whole point is equal access to medical care. But whatever.


Gudanov - Nov 24, 2009 5:49:35 am PST #21077 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Not wanting to open a can of worms, but I disagree. It's a legal medical procedure.

I think the stand is reasonable, it's specific and not hypocritical. Whether a legal procedure should be specifically excluded is another matter.

I think the amendment says that if you get any public subsidy that you cannot purchase a private insurance plan that covers abortion.