Giles! I accidentally killed Spike. That's okay, right?

Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Nov 12, 2009 2:18:13 pm PST #19029 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

That article about Catholic Charities ending adoptions is from 2006. Not sure what their stance on singles adopting, but some of religious agencies won't work with singles and some won;t even work with couples unless they can show that they are unable to conceive. special place in hell.


brenda m - Nov 12, 2009 2:23:17 pm PST #19030 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I haven't contributed to anything but emergency funds to fix the roof

Yes you have. You're one of my touchpoints when I'm tempted to regard the entire Catholic Church as a bunch of hypocritical misogynist fucktards. You're the baby that stops me throwing out the bathwater.


DavidS - Nov 12, 2009 2:24:14 pm PST #19031 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Randomly, I need to share traditional Icelandic cuisine:

Most national Icelandic foods are based around fish, lamb and dairy products. Þorramatur is a national food consisting of many dishes and is usually consumed around the month of Þorri. Traditional dishes include skyr, cured ram scrota, cured shark, singed sheep heads and black pudding.

Cured ram scrota and singed sheep head!


brenda m - Nov 12, 2009 2:26:17 pm PST #19032 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Like that makes it better?


Kathy A - Nov 12, 2009 2:26:36 pm PST #19033 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The Vatican-II-era Pope John XXIII took that name (and number) to supercede the Antipope John XXIII, which I always thought was a cool way to smack down someone in an historical sense--just disappear him entirely.


Polter-Cow - Nov 12, 2009 2:26:57 pm PST #19034 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yes, and then they go to Avignon! (Okay, only one of them did, but still. [link])

Oh my God, that is so hilarious. I can't believe that's a thing. Oh, people.

By the way, any Bay Area Middleman fans: Javier Grillo-Marxuach will be performing at Writers with Drinks at the Make-Out Room this Saturday at 7:30.


dcp - Nov 12, 2009 2:28:14 pm PST #19035 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

cured shark

I think this is a reference to hákarl. Yuck.


msbelle - Nov 12, 2009 2:28:51 pm PST #19036 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Can someone come take care of mac tonight? I just want to have him bathed (without me needing to be in there) and go to bed while I veg in front of the tv.


brenda m - Nov 12, 2009 2:29:52 pm PST #19037 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

And, er, yes, I realize that in the second sentence above I basically just completely described the Episcopal church in America. It's just...I love my little band of misfits, standing vigil at the gates of San Quentin when there's an execution, stubbornly using the gender-inclusive and neutral language that was recently forbidden, speaking up during the Prayers for the Faithful to ask for the ordination of women, getting arrested every Thanksgiving crossing the line at Fort Benning/SOA, marching on every union picket line in the East Bay, the priest who preached against Prop 8.

I posted the above before seeing this. I've almost gotten arrested outside Fort Benning! Good times. And there were a lot of good Catholics with me. So I guess I should add to what I said before - you remind me of some of the fucking remarkable people I've known, and you're the most present person in my life who shows me what Catholic faith can be at it's best.

So, um, from an unbeliver with massive religion issues. Thank you.


Dana - Nov 12, 2009 2:32:29 pm PST #19038 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Aside from my family, I am definitely grateful for the presence of awesome religious people here and elsewhere on the internet. (Edit: For providing positive examples.) JZ, Liese, Anne, and others I'm sure I'm forgetting.

QI had a whole bit last season about a Pope who dug up another Pope and put his corpse on trial.