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'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 08, 2009 6:21:05 pm PST #18045 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

msbelle- I am glad to hear things are improving. I don't want to make this all about me, but in some ways I really relate to Mac and how having all these feelings that he doesn't know what to do with sometimes causes actions that he might feel bad about later.

I don't know if this helps at all because I don't think my mother ever solved this problem with me, I just seemed to outgrow it but... I was a horrible child to my mother. I never misbehaved when out of the house, but in the house I could be an irrational screaming kicking crying mess. I hit, kicked, bit, yelled and said really really mean things and called my mother horrible names. And I was so so angry and had so much feeling in me (this would have been from age 7 - 10 or thereabouts, so it wasn't the teenager stuff)-- why, I do not know. And the thing is, the punishment/reward thing did not work for me at all, because I knew that I was stronger mentally and physically than my mother-- that ultimately she couldn't force me to do anything. For some reason, it was very important to me that I had the power and that I was in control. There was a part of me that fet triumphant when I won and my mother gave up. Again, forgive me if this is ground that is well-trodden, but it seems to me that somehow getting Mac to feel that he won't lose you even if he lets you be in power is the important thing. One of the things that helped me was reading Jane Eyre in 4th grade. When I saw Jane in the red room, angry and having a tantrum, I understood that I wasn't the only child who was angry and unhappy and not really well-liked. Probably Jane isn't the appropriate role model for Mac, but maybe there is something he can relate too...


DavidS - Nov 08, 2009 6:23:49 pm PST #18046 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

why, I do not know

Didn't your father abandon your family?


msbelle - Nov 08, 2009 6:26:33 pm PST #18047 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Sophia, go see Where the Wild Thing Are. really.

it seems to me that somehow getting Mac to feel that he won't lose you even if he lets you be in power is the important thing.

That is EXACTLY it. He doesn't trust that. It's why I can't just let him stay in his room mad, I have to go to him and offer him the outs. I have to show over and over, I will NOT give up on you and on this family. And I have to hug him and give snuggles especially when I am still mad.

That's the hardest for me, because I do mad really really well, and I excel at petty and sarcastic while mad.


msbelle - Nov 08, 2009 6:28:16 pm PST #18048 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Go Cowboys!


-t - Nov 08, 2009 6:28:16 pm PST #18049 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Try having him soak it in epsom salts.

I was just going to suggest this. It's my go-to foot treatment.


javachik - Nov 08, 2009 6:28:30 pm PST #18050 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Just bring your petty and sarcastic here; we can take it!


javachik - Nov 08, 2009 6:29:17 pm PST #18051 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Go Cowboys!

You're just being petty and sarcastic now, right??

Go Iggles!!(except Vick because I will loathe you forever)


msbelle - Nov 08, 2009 6:34:58 pm PST #18052 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

seriously?!?!? the other thing about me, I hold a grudge. Buddy Ryan! Hatesss him, so will always hate the Eagles.


javachik - Nov 08, 2009 6:35:58 pm PST #18053 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Hmmm, I don't know who Buddy Ryan is, I'll have to look it up. I mainly root for the Eagles because I like McNabb and boyfriend is a Philly man. Niners are my first team (hence the Cowboys hate).

ETA: otay, looked it up on teh internets and learned about the Landry/Ryan thing.


-t - Nov 08, 2009 6:39:48 pm PST #18054 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Man, just reading the coverage of the Saints game is nerve-wracking.

Now that I've seen it: yeah, nothing relaxing about that game.