Like any of that's enough to fight the Dark Master. Bator.

Xander ,'Lessons'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Nov 08, 2009 5:38:40 pm PST #18016 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Did everyone everywhere insert "hey motherfucker get laid, get fucked" into "Mony, Mony"?

Yes.


msbelle - Nov 08, 2009 5:41:00 pm PST #18017 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

he only gets the DS on the subway, in cars, waiting for karate, and 20 min in the house on Friday night. No DS in the house because otherwise it causes fights. I really try to not go to a punishment reward structure because it doesn't work with mac (doesn't work for most attachment issue kids), I state expectations, express frustration/anger/disappointment, give him space to process, go back to him and offer a way out of the the position he has put himself in as the "bad kid", maybe recycle those last two 3-4 times, get on with things I have to do up to and including going to bed myself with it unresolved. Exhausting, but working toward the right direction and approved by our two mental health professionals. Where most kids will come around to what a parent tells them because they don't want the disapproval, punishment, or disruption - attachment issue kids just keep refusing and ask "what happens if I do/don't" - ratchet up the bad behavior if told a punishment - keep refusing and say "you can't make me" which often times you really can't or if you can, it get really ugly/dangerous - refuse to let you do anything but deal with them (pull apart knitting, rip books, turn off tv/computer/music, flip lights on and off in the room, pour water on the bed you are heading towards). SO really it is a LOT better, you all are just my surrogate partner, I need someone to vent to who is safe and won't look at me like I am horrible/crazy/both.

and I haven't tried everything and the mac location of behavior and needs is ever moving so strategies are always welcome.


Hil R. - Nov 08, 2009 5:42:14 pm PST #18018 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Did everyone everywhere insert "hey motherfucker get laid, get fucked" into "Mony, Mony"?

In NJ in the early nineties, it was "Hey you slut get laid get fucked." And nobody seemed to notice that we were shouting that at bar and bat mitzvah parties.


megan walker - Nov 08, 2009 5:42:40 pm PST #18019 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

msbelle, you are not horrible or crazy. You are amazing.


javachik - Nov 08, 2009 5:47:30 pm PST #18020 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

YES. Definitely amazing. I don't know very much about attachment issues kiddos. I am in awe of your strength and how much you obviously care for very lucky Mac. I really hope you don't feel like I wrote out that idea due thinking you're venting too much or something. Not the case at. all.

[edited for clarity on last couple of sentences]


msbelle - Nov 08, 2009 5:47:43 pm PST #18021 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

and megan walker made me cry. no fair from a really knows me not just person in the box.


sarameg - Nov 08, 2009 5:48:24 pm PST #18022 of 30001

You aren't horrible or crazy. Never that.

I've seen a similar case before, so I am aware all the usual things don't apply, but it's weird to know that stuff. I wouldn't have before and I never knew I'd know it now.

Any ideas can help or already been tried. I've been there, offering useless advice. About the only good advice I've probably ever given is trust your therapists and I love you. And hang in there.


sarameg - Nov 08, 2009 5:49:52 pm PST #18023 of 30001

Er, and I offer that advice now.


Cashmere - Nov 08, 2009 5:49:53 pm PST #18024 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'm glad I picked last week to get sick because this week is going to be NUTS. I just prepared three meals for a meal swap on Thursday. I need to fix a meal for a new mom on Wednesday (I'm going to do chilli when I get some burger thawed out). I also need to do a veggie tray for Feed the Teachers Night on Thursday and bake something for Liv's school's bake sale on Wednesday.

I have a board meeting Monday night, a committee meeting Wednesday afternoon and Owen's parent/teacher conference on Thursday.

We then leave for Indiana to help with my in-law's 40th Anniversary Party on Saturday.


javachik - Nov 08, 2009 5:50:30 pm PST #18025 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Sorry to be a person in a box; I need to rectify that soon with an actual NYC visit.