Kaylee: Can I? Zoe: Sure. He's out, though. Kaylee: He did this for me, once.

'Safe'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Barb - Nov 05, 2009 1:23:16 pm PST #17439 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

From USA Today:

A law enforcement official who spoke to AP said Hasan, believed to be in his late 30s, was killed after opening fire at the base and was an Army mental health professional.

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flea - Nov 05, 2009 1:27:08 pm PST #17440 of 30001
information libertarian

You know, so often when there's a mass shooting, there's a population that starts saying, "Well, if only everyone were armed, if you could carry guns on school campuses, this wouldn't be able to happen." But this happened on an Army base , where presumably everybody is both fricken armed and knows how to actually shoot the guns.


Stephanie - Nov 05, 2009 1:28:31 pm PST #17441 of 30001
Trust my rage

I wonder if MAJ Hassan worked at the SRP site. I am a little surprised the guy was a major and that he was working with other people.


Stephanie - Nov 05, 2009 1:30:43 pm PST #17442 of 30001
Trust my rage

But no one is armed on an Army base. All military weapons are locked up very tightly and you aren't allowed to bring personal weapons on post. I mean, you can sneak them on of course.

Having said that, this sort of thing is why Im glad we don't live on post.

Eta: I was responding to flea.


Jesse - Nov 05, 2009 1:31:29 pm PST #17443 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In better news, I finally have meat muffins in the oven! I think this is going to work out perfectly -- I microwaved a potato (microwave!), and then put it in the oven with the meat and brussels sprouts for 20 minutes.

I haven't cooked a real dinner in yonks.


flea - Nov 05, 2009 1:33:10 pm PST #17444 of 30001
information libertarian

MPs aren't armed on base?

ETA: Everything I know about Army bases that I didn't learn from Stephanie, I learned from watching MASH, so.


Stephanie - Nov 05, 2009 1:38:41 pm PST #17445 of 30001
Trust my rage

Well, the gate guards and police are armed. But regular sdiers rarely have access to their weapons and even then, they only get live ammunition at a range. So, there are actually very few people on a base with access to weapons and ammo. But of course everyone on the base (just about) knows how to shoot multiple weapons and they are fairly comfortable with guns in general.

Deployed it's different. Everyone in Iraq has a weapon almost all the time and they likely have ammo too.

Eta: I should add that doctors and chaplains don't do much weapons training, if any. It's very odd to me that the shooter was a doctor, an officer, and apparently conspired with others.


msbelle - Nov 05, 2009 1:57:04 pm PST #17446 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

There was supposed to be a 5:45 press confernce, was/is there?

The local area news website I was just reading said MAJ Hasan was to be deployed.


msbelle - Nov 05, 2009 2:01:30 pm PST #17447 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Ion - the wind is blowing crazy and it just started raining - boo hiss weather.


billytea - Nov 05, 2009 2:15:05 pm PST #17448 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

For Billytea (and anyone else who needs to stop hitting refresh on the Ft Hood story) - baby echidnas.

I know! I've never been to Perth, maybe I should rectify that.