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Sophia Brooks - Dec 28, 2009 4:51:17 am PST #5796 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Speaking of which, does anyone know how detectives became known as "dicks". I have been wondering that for ages, but google (understandably) tends to send me to porn.


Aims - Dec 28, 2009 4:58:05 am PST #5797 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

They changed the name. It's called Cop Out.

Ah. When we saw Kevin Smith in September, he said he wasn't sure if the studio was going to let them keep the name.


Jon B. - Dec 28, 2009 5:13:16 am PST #5798 of 30000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Speaking of which, does anyone know how detectives became known as "dicks".

I always assumed it was a simple shortening, but a google of "dick detective etymology" turned up this interesting comment about a NY Times article:

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Search the page for the word "detectives" and you find this:

For another example, his entry on “dick” ‘detective’ seems to prefer that the word comes from the “eye” logo used by Pinkerton detectives (I say “seems” because his logic is often difficult to follow):

“The Pinkerton’s world-famous logo was the giant ‘All-Seeing Eye.’ The Pinkerton private ‘eye’ and labor union spy was christened a dick (dearc, an eye) by the Irish-speaking subjects of its gaze: Molly Maguires, Fenians, Knights of Labor, and Wobblies.”

But he has only 1922 as his earliest source (though the earliest date is 1908 in the OED and the Historical Dictionary of American Slang [HDAS]), he doesn’t address the Hiberno-English travelers’ cant suggested by HDAS, he fails to mention “keep dick” in the English Dialect Dictionary (EDD) which (according to HDAS; I can’t double-check because Archive.org doesn’t have EDD Vol. II) cites it from Northern Ireland, and he makes no connection to the “deek” ‘to descry; to see’ (1784 in the Scottish National Dictionary) which HDAS suggests is synonymous with the English Romani “dik.”


§ ita § - Dec 28, 2009 5:16:21 am PST #5799 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

he said he wasn't sure if the studio was going to let them keep the name

From what I can tell the studio shouldn't have let him keep the movie.


Aims - Dec 28, 2009 5:17:49 am PST #5800 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

From what I can tell the studio shouldn't have let him keep the movie.

Which makes me sad because it's KS's first time directing a movie he didn't write. I haven't seen any trailers or anything, what is annoying about it?


Sophia Brooks - Dec 28, 2009 5:19:01 am PST #5801 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Wow, that is interesting, Jon. I had always wondered if it came from Dick Tracy.


§ ita § - Dec 28, 2009 5:20:49 am PST #5802 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

what is annoying about it?

In a nutshell, Tracy Morgan. Though I don't know if another actor could have redeemed the character any--he seems to have been written expressly irritatingly. And Bruce Willis's exasperation with him isn't enough--he doesn't seem sympathetic either.


Aims - Dec 28, 2009 5:24:27 am PST #5803 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Yeah, Tracy Morgan is one of those actors that people either love or hate. A lot of the time it's him I can't watch on 30 Rock.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 28, 2009 5:38:06 am PST #5804 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think I'd have been a regular watcher of 30 Rock for years if not for him.


Polter-Cow - Dec 28, 2009 6:14:32 am PST #5805 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I find Tracy Morgan hilarious on 30 Rock, but he wasn't funny in that trailer.