Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


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Connie Neil - Dec 25, 2009 12:36:06 pm PST #5743 of 30000
brillig

Just back from Sherlock Holmes. I very nearly loved it. They didn't explain who Holmes and Watson are, they assumed you have a decent familiarity with the stories--or that you are willing to just accept who these people are. There was a reasonable reason for everything, and the Holmes-Watson relationship was very nicely handled.

Won't say more, you'll need to see it for yourself. But much better than I was afraid it would be. And it looks terrific.


§ ita § - Dec 25, 2009 1:49:04 pm PST #5744 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I had fun at Sherlock Holmes. My sister had read on Gawker that the relationship between Holmes and Watson was oversold, but came out quite impressed with the degree of it.

I didn't think it was the perversion many people feared coming, although it does have a number of fight scenes. Holmes is still definitely thinky as well as punchy, even at the same time.


Connie Neil - Dec 25, 2009 2:01:17 pm PST #5745 of 30000
brillig

the relationship between Holmes and Watson was oversold,

I don't think so. In fact, there were some nice bits of "We're Victorians, mustn't show the fact we care about each other."


§ ita § - Dec 25, 2009 2:48:20 pm PST #5746 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They were completely crazy about each other, Holmes especially. The trailers, lie, though, because the scene where Adler says "They've been flirting like this all morning¹" isn't actually in the movie.

¹: Or afternoon or some other period of the day.


Stephanie - Dec 25, 2009 5:06:05 pm PST #5747 of 30000
Trust my rage

I just got back from Holmes. I had a lot of fun and really enjoyed it. I'm not super picky about movies but it was very enjoyable. I liked the Holmes/Watson relationship. As ita said, Holmes was clearly crazy about Watson. What I couldn't get over was how much it reminded me of House/Wilson. I mean, I know House is based on Holmes, but House never really pinged me as Holmes. But this Holmes really made me think of House.


Connie Neil - Dec 25, 2009 6:50:17 pm PST #5748 of 30000
brillig

Hubby wondered why they didn't do the cocaine. Considering there was a disclaimer in the credits how nothing in the movie was to the profit of the tobacco industry, I don't think they could get away with cocaine in a PG-13 movie.


bon bon - Dec 25, 2009 7:00:17 pm PST #5749 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Also back from Sherlock Holmes (my mom had to see it), but thought it was soulless. Not *terrible*, just nothing particularly good there for me.


Typo Boy - Dec 25, 2009 8:18:53 pm PST #5750 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Saw "Up In the Air". Thought it very funny, very sharp. Wittily observed. The dialog avoided being wittier than what the characters would actually say, but within that limit was often witty as well. This is not a soft-edge feel good comedy. But a very very good dark come. Minor quibbles: there is one sub-plot twist you will see coming very early in the film (but plenty of surprises that are not signaled). I highly recommend it.


§ ita § - Dec 25, 2009 9:16:51 pm PST #5751 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Holmes also comes from a time when drug use was unregulated by law, but the film skates around his interest in mind-altering substances. "It's hard to do that kind of thing and get a PG rating," Ritchie laughs. "I think it would be hard to sell a hero who injects cocaine. But the whole idea with Holmes is that he's game to try anything in order to deduce what he needs to deduce. We've tried to capture the spirit of that."

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Calli - Dec 26, 2009 3:58:51 am PST #5752 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

In The Sign of the Four Holmes was described as a terrific boxer who could have gone pro. So the thought of a punchy + thinky Holmes doesn't bother me. I'll be seeing the movie sometime tomorrow, and I'm really looking forward to it.