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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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billytea - Jun 11, 2013 2:45:24 pm PDT #24656 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Irish wolfhounds in elk!


Atropa - Jun 11, 2013 3:04:38 pm PDT #24657 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

So Lee Pace is Tharanduil? Excellent.

Yes, and gave EPIC bitch, please -face in his ... one scene.

Arachnophobe warning 1 min 10 seconds in.

Thank you for the warning. Yep, there's going to be a whole section of the movie I will never see.


Connie Neil - Jun 11, 2013 3:30:35 pm PDT #24658 of 30000
brillig

Yep, there's going to be a whole section of the movie I will never see.

Think of it as a built-in bathroom break. Like most of Arwen's scenes in LOTR.


Jessica - Jun 11, 2013 5:55:47 pm PDT #24659 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So I just saw Punching Stuff Until It Blows Up, er, I mean Man of Steel.

It was not good.


Scrappy - Jun 11, 2013 5:58:06 pm PDT #24660 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

How was my DH's friend Mike Shannon?


Jessica - Jun 11, 2013 5:59:59 pm PDT #24661 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Fine, I guess? The script was so bad I mostly felt sorry for the actors. And about 90% of the screentime for any Kryptonian was CG/mocap punching stuff.


Typo Boy - Jun 11, 2013 8:53:56 pm PDT #24662 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I have a bad movie rec. Now there are two reason to rec a bad movie. One is Mystery Science Theater level of badness and while this is mockable, I'm not sure it is worth the effort. The other is that an otherwise bad film does one thing well, and so is worth watching if you are in the mood.

My Rec: The Spirit. So many plot holes it is a chain link fence, dialog so bad it makes the worst Hulk movies seem like Shakespeare by comparison Some really good actors wasted in it,but the writing is so bad you mostly can't tell they have any acting ability. Though there is a certain fascination in Samuel L. Jackson as the villain of the piece (The Octopus). I'm pretty sure he gained ten pounds from all the scenery he chewed.

So why the rec? For pure weird-assedness. I'm sure weird and grotesque is what Miller was aiming for, and though it is a shame he sacrificed everything else to get there, he achieved it. It is weird on a number of levels.

One is causualness towards death. Not just callousness on the part of the villains, but pretty much nobody seems to take death seriously (with maybe two exceptions). For example not only does the Octopus consider his minions as disposable as kleenex, the minions have the same attitude. So when one of the minions is run over by a pretty woman villaines/sidekick, he spends his time while dying commenting to the other minion how pretty she is. Occasionally a minion about to be killed will try to talk the Octopus out of discarding him, with the earnestness of a little kid trying to wheedle a cookie he knows he won't get. Both The Spirit and The Octopus tend to die and come back to life a lot. And Sand Serif (kind of a villain/semi-hero) and the Spirit's lost love manages to blackmail someone who betrayed her into killing himself. Basically, she talks him into killing himself - I guess cause he does not take his own survival that much more seriously than the OctoMinions take theirs.

There is also the weird feel of the city - 40's style building, fashions and appearence of cars, but with modern computers and internet. Shot in black and white, I presume mainly to save money, but contributes a grotesque feel of an old noir film glimpsed in a funhouse mirror.

The characters are pretty much all grotesques too. In short: IMO worth watching for pure weirdness and grotesquery. A bad film with one feature worth watching for - provided you don't spend much on it, and don't have better to do.


DavidS - Jun 11, 2013 9:20:59 pm PDT #24663 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Shot in black and white, I presume mainly to save money,

You can't save money by shooting in b/w anymore. It's not like there are huge batches of b/w stock lying around as everybody went to color as happened in the sixties. You actually lose money because it's harder to make overseas TV and cable deals.

Noah Baumbach talked about this when shooting Frances Ha. (Which I want to see.)

It's purely an aesthetic choice.

If they shot it in digital (as I presume they did) it's just something they fiddle with in post-production.


Typo Boy - Jun 11, 2013 9:30:50 pm PDT #24664 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK, so purely artistic choice. Still overall a bad movie. Still wonderfully weird and grotesque.


Typo Boy - Jun 11, 2013 10:23:16 pm PDT #24665 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Rereading, the phrasing is ungracious. Thanks for the correction. I learned something new.

BTW, even though most of the script owed little the original comic, the character names mostly are from the Eisner comic. Which makes me wonder if 'Sand Serif" is a font geek joke.