Wesley: I stabbed you. I should apologize for that. But I'm honestly not sure how. I think it'll just be awkward. Gunn: Good call. Wesley: Okay.

'Time Bomb'


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Zenkitty - May 17, 2013 8:31:41 am PDT #24394 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I guess I should whitefont it; it's a minor spoiler.


Jessica - May 17, 2013 8:33:10 am PDT #24395 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Weren't there tribbles in the first JJA Trek?


Zenkitty - May 17, 2013 8:39:06 am PDT #24396 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I don't think there were.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 17, 2013 8:40:13 am PDT #24397 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't know. So many of the scenes were like blipverts, they could have easily slipped some in without me noticing.


§ ita § - May 17, 2013 8:48:47 am PDT #24398 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's a 40-year-old spoiler, if anything. Maybe 45.

I'm talking about the movie that opened this week.


Jessica - May 17, 2013 9:09:32 am PDT #24399 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

io9 says yes - [link]


Zenkitty - May 17, 2013 11:55:27 am PDT #24400 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Ah, i09 is correct... there was a tribble with Scotty on Delta Vega in the first movie. One tribble in a cage, that became two tribbles the next time we saw it.


Tom Scola - May 18, 2013 6:19:02 am PDT #24401 of 30000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

For Jess: [link]


Jessica - May 18, 2013 8:42:32 am PDT #24402 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Hahahaha! It is amazing how Vulcans don't bruise.


le nubian - May 18, 2013 12:02:58 pm PDT #24403 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

establishing my bona fides...

I liked the previous Star Trek movie quite a bit actually and I was very afraid and was prepared to be QUITE disappointed with the new movie. I read no reviews and no spoilers prior to this point. I am now going back to read. That said...

I was pleasantly surprised at how much I liked the new Star Trek movie. I think it is better than Iron Man 3 (but I didn't much care for IM 3). I was digging the movie and pretty much engaged in it for the first 2/3rds. The first part of the movie really worked for me from a plot perspective. We could argue that it wasn't really a ST film, but setting that aside, the plot stuff worked. There was some stuff where I said: "why the fuck did that happen" and there is a reasonable explanation of why that occurred the way it did. All this goodwill was gone though because of roughly the last third of the movie. The end part of the movie really really bothered me, and I actually find the latter third somewhat unforgivable. My main complaint is similar to complaints I have had about George Lucas prequels. If fans love a particular movie or part of a fandom, you can't just reference it in hopes that this will get the fans to love YOUR movie. The key moments you reference were part of a larger excellent narrative. You start alienating me when you reference those for the sake of hitting presumed emotional beats that, in my view, did not need to be hit. BIG BIG Spoilers and complaints follow:

I was pissed OFF at the point when the villain screamed "NOOOOOO" when the torpedoes exploded in his ship. WTF was that? I actually laughed in the theater at this. That was the main point at which I was taken out of the movie and I did not return to the movie afterward. This of course was made far far worse when Spock yelled "KHAAAAAAN!!" about 15-20 minutes later. Again, WTF was that? I shook my head. And then the atrocities (yeah, I exaggerate) kept rolling in. What they did to Kirk was just bullshit. And unnecessary. Made worse by the fact that every person with a brain knew how the Kirk situation would have resolved itself. Spock fighting the villain on flying ships on Earth was stupid. The villain killed KLINGONS in hand to hand combat - don't get me started on how ridiculous that was, but I could have ignored it - so how was Spock okay to be beat on by the villain. I *love* the movie The Wrath of Khan and I am resentful they tried to play on my affection for that movie to get me to like this movie. I think the villain was somewhat underdeveloped. Well-acted, to be sure, but the final goal needed to be more developed. I am unceasingly disappointed that the villain was not simply trying to get his crew back and go on his way after all. I thought that would have been a master stroke of plotting and would have employed the pocket universe concept to its best. I have no idea why they didn't do this. It would have been far more interesting than what they came up with.