AND I would have a lot more tolerance for the "Fuck Plan B" stance if Amanda Palmer didn't then turn around and ask other struggling artists to help her put on her show in return for beer, hugs, and "great exposure!". Yes, she eventually decided to pay the musicians who were joining her on stage, but only after people took her to task over it.
Mal: How come you didn't turn on me, Jayne? Jayne: Money wasn't good enough. Mal: What happens when it is? Jayne: Well... that'll be an interesting day.
'Serenity'
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Atropa - Mar 14, 2013 11:02:14 am PDT #23842 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
erikaj - Mar 14, 2013 11:04:46 am PDT #23843 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
Made me think of the hip-hop mogul on the Sopranos with the degree in urban planning.
Jessica - Mar 14, 2013 11:09:28 am PDT #23844 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I have to say, I have never heard a single thing about Amanda Palmer that would lead me to seek out her music.
Jessica - Mar 14, 2013 11:09:29 am PDT #23845 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Consuela - Mar 14, 2013 11:20:39 am PDT #23846 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
And you're ignoring the "I really like being a psychologist and doing voice work for animation and computer games" people who have it going on both cylinders, and like their lives to boot.
Yes, this. Everything ita ! just said.
Let's not forget that success is defined in many different ways. And someone who sacrificed everything to become a professional writer in their youth maybe got a career out of it (if they were lucky), but perhaps the novel they would have written in their 50s after thirty years working and raising a family might have been more meaningful.
I think it's a mistake to privilege a paying career as an artist/creative person as Better. The result isn't necessarily better art, and it may not even be a better life for the artist.
Amy - Mar 14, 2013 11:22:32 am PDT #23847 of 30000
Because books.
I think it's a mistake to privilege a paying career as an artist/creative person as Better. The result isn't necessarily better art, and it may not even be a better life for the artist.
That's a really good point.
DavidS - Mar 14, 2013 11:26:06 am PDT #23848 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I think it's a mistake to privilege a paying career as an artist/creative person as Better.
Yeah, I have no problem privileging that as Better.
Consuela - Mar 14, 2013 11:27:58 am PDT #23849 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Yeah, I have no problem privileging that as Better.
I've noticed.
DavidS - Mar 14, 2013 11:30:48 am PDT #23850 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I've noticed.
So? It's a not unreasonable stance.
I do believe it is Better to be a full time voiceover artist because you're going to get the most interesting work, and get paid more for it and have to do less of the work that you don't find interesting.
That's better in every way. Plan B is the second plan for a reason - because it is less desirable.
Consuela - Mar 14, 2013 11:31:07 am PDT #23851 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
To follow-up: a paying career as an artist is what you want, great. But it doesn't make you a better person, except inasmuch as you're personally happier (I assume).
You don't get the moral high ground for being a professional artist. And you don't get to lord it over those of us who squeeze in our creativity in the corners of our lives, sketching during teleconferences and scribbling outlines on the bus home.