Link! Give me a link! Muahahahah!
No link, it was over IM. Essentially, she was like, yes, move over, go away, you're problematic.
I hate to break it to you, oh impotent one, but you're not the big bad anymore, you're not even the kind of naughty.
Xander ,'Showtime'
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Polter-Cow - Mar 13, 2013 6:25:45 pm PDT #23768 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
§ ita § - Mar 13, 2013 7:12:04 pm PDT #23769 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Debet, if you're hiding from Browncoats here, there might be something I have to tell you.
Atropa - Mar 13, 2013 7:12:52 pm PDT #23770 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
No link, it was over IM. Essentially, she was like, yes, move over, go away, you're problematic.
Ahahahahaha! Please give her a big smooch from me for that. I still haven't watched AP's TED talk for fear that it will make my head explode with rage.
§ ita § - Mar 13, 2013 7:19:00 pm PDT #23771 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I felt like AP got suddenly unproblematic and really trendy among the same people who were calling stuff out back in the day, and I thought I'd missed some redemptive gesture or something.
Is it just "I don't want to be mad at someone Neil Gaiman loves, because even hipsters like Neil Gaiman at least a little"? Or, you know, some other sincere and uncompromising explanation?
Atropa - Mar 13, 2013 7:46:27 pm PDT #23772 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Is it just "I don't want to be mad at someone Neil Gaiman loves, because even hipsters like Neil Gaiman at least a little"?
Mostly this, I fear. Which is part of the reason I don't say much (super-publicly) about any issues I have with her.
DavidS - Mar 13, 2013 8:31:12 pm PDT #23773 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I have no problems with Amanda Palmer and admire her.
She didn't say the rights things when she wrote her record about conjoined twins and was called out for being ableist.
That's the extent of her offense. Was she huffy and puffy and defensive about it? Yes.
That doesn't bug me.
Atropa - Mar 13, 2013 8:43:05 pm PDT #23774 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
My biggest issue with her goes back to why her "Fuck having a plan B" statement infuriated me. It's easy to have that belief when you have (and have always had) a safety net that will make sure you are taken care of while you Persue Your Art. And from everything I've heard about her TED talk, that blithe assumption of privilege is an undercurrent in it.
sj - Mar 14, 2013 2:36:43 am PDT #23775 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
I unapologetically adore Amanda Palmer, and it has nothing to do with Neil Gaiman. I missed the whole Evelyn, Evelyn controversy when it happened, but I have listened to that music since then and don't have a problem with it.
Steph L. - Mar 14, 2013 3:55:18 am PDT #23776 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
My biggest issue with her goes back to why her "Fuck having a plan B" statement infuriated me. It's easy to have that belief when you have (and have always had) a safety net that will make sure you are taken care of while you Persue Your Art. And from everything I've heard about her TED talk, that blithe assumption of privilege is an undercurrent in it.
That, and her more recent tour where she was asking local musicians to play with her for zero compensation. Really? *She* deserves compensation for her work--excuse me, her Art--but other fellow musicians don't? That's not just privilege, it's sheer entitlement (which is a part of privilege, but not everyone who has privilege actually actualizes entitlement).
DavidS - Mar 14, 2013 4:52:44 am PDT #23777 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
My biggest issue with her goes back to why her "Fuck having a plan B" statement infuriated me.
Really? That doesn't bug me at all. I don't think that's privilege. That's just one person's approach to the particularly difficult trick of "the struggling artist" realities.