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Buffy ,'End of Days'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DCJensen - Dec 26, 2009 5:25:45 pm PST #11409 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I found this from November in a Dr Who wiki:

It should be noted that the name Wilfred Mott is an Anagram for the phrase "WTF Time Lords" or "Time Lords WTF".

I wonder if that was intentional?


Tom Scola - Dec 26, 2009 5:26:46 pm PST #11410 of 30001
hwæt

That was weird. There was a whole lot of plot, yet not much happened.

do they show anyone else surviving the Master-ization?

They didn't show anything in the previews. But as pure speculation, I wouldn't be surprised if Captain Jack were immune.


DCJensen - Dec 26, 2009 5:34:07 pm PST #11411 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

FYI:

I found the preview and trailer that have been broadcast on BBC.

[link]

With the bonus of being available for viewing, since the UK site is off limits to non-UK peoples.

The preview may be spoilery, as I don't know if it's been shown on BBCA


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2009 5:44:51 pm PST #11412 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Scola, is he even on the planet?


beekaytee - Dec 26, 2009 5:49:05 pm PST #11413 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Whoa. Neither one of the previews Daniel linked to where on the copy I got. These were much more interesting.

OMG. I just had a thought.

So, if the 10th is supposed to die for good... with all this dundunDUN foreshadowing, what if 11 springs from Wilf?

Hmm. Wouldn't that be twisty.

Donna and her ma weren't affected by the Masterification because they share his Gallifrey dna .

Yeah, probably totally overshot that one, but it's fun to think about. And would fit right in with the bringing of the pain since it would mean Wilf no more .


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 26, 2009 5:52:36 pm PST #11414 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh dear, the dance-fu sparring scene from Farscape just does not get any better with repetition.


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2009 5:56:25 pm PST #11415 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If 11 sprang from Wilf he wouldn't be 11. He'd be someone else.


Anne W. - Dec 26, 2009 5:59:16 pm PST #11416 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'm wondering if something will happen with the part of Donna that is the Doctor.


beekaytee - Dec 26, 2009 6:00:24 pm PST #11417 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Eh. So much for my gleeful mind-dance. You are right, of course.

I'm just trying to figure out how all this is connected, but I'm having no luck. Either that means it's great storytelling or I'm slipping.


victor infante - Dec 26, 2009 6:22:35 pm PST #11418 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Did we know before today that we was more special than, say, Micky?

The Doctor commented on the coincidence the second time he met Wilf, as it's odd that he runs into people more than once. (Micky wouldn't count, because he only ran into the Doctor multiple times because of Rose. Likewise, Jack and Donna were looking for the Doctor, and it took a long time -- Jack, a century of camping out somewhere where he knew the Doctor would turn up; Donna -- perhaps a bit too serendipitously -- by investigating weird shit she was sure he'd be involved in, and even that took a year or two. Sarah Jane continued on investigating Doctor-ish things, and took a few decades to run across him again. So yeah, Wilf's continually crossing his path must seem suspicious. But then, I don't know that it means he's a time lord, either.

But then ...

It should be noted that the name Wilfred Mott is an Anagram for the phrase "WTF Time Lords" or "Time Lords WTF".

Yeah, that seems suspicious. (: