Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Feb 06, 2008 5:14:42 am PST #7823 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't know about all that, Steph, I'm having a hard time letting anything scary through.

My choices last night were between a black man and a woman, and they both have a great shot at being the POTUS.

I got chills looking at the ballot. And more so looking at the numbers of white red staters who came out fighting for Obama.

Mostly, even if I try, I can't shake the feeling of hope that brings, and the very simple idea that I can again feel pride instead of shame every time my President opens his (or her!!!!) mouth.

If I think about it even a tiny bit, I believe that an Obama/Edwards ticket is unbeatable.


Sparky1 - Feb 06, 2008 5:14:51 am PST #7824 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Welcome, Esther! Congratulations, lisah! Have a great time spoiling her rotten!


Steph L. - Feb 06, 2008 5:18:19 am PST #7825 of 10001
That which does not kill you should RUN

My choices last night were between a black man and a woman, and they both have a great shot at being the POTUS.

Don't get me wrong; that's something that still blows my fucking mind every time I think about it.

If I think about it even a tiny bit, I believe that an Obama/Edwards ticket is unbeatable.

I want to believe that, and a lot of me does, and I think Obama can take it all the way to the White House, but after 2004, I will never ever ever EVER underestimate the crazed religious right and their voting power.


sarameg - Feb 06, 2008 5:18:31 am PST #7826 of 10001

Ow. Ow ow OW.

Stupid meeting in 45 minutes.


lisah - Feb 06, 2008 5:21:33 am PST #7827 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Thanks, guys! I thought she'd never get here!


msbelle - Feb 06, 2008 5:23:04 am PST #7828 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Msbelle, I'm curious as to how it works with Mac. Is he automatically a US Citizen because you are?

He came in on a Visa (I forget the #), got a permenant resident card a few weeks after here and then after 6 mos, we could go through a re-adoption in the state to get paperwork that we then use to get a Certificate of Citizenship and a US Passport. We haven't done that last bit yet, so he has his Eth passport, the US permemnant res card and a SS card.

The re-adoption is my next step, I just need to call the lawyer thingy through work to get it started - with that comes name change so he won't have to be: His first name - My first name - Our last name: which is what the Eth government does automatically to all adoptees.


Allyson - Feb 06, 2008 5:27:32 am PST #7829 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I still think his nickname, plus your lastname, is the BEST PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR NAME EVER!!!!


Jessica - Feb 06, 2008 5:32:56 am PST #7830 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think Obama/Edwards would be a mistake - they're too similar to capture anything but the "fans of young charismatic populists" block. Obama's VP needs to be a smart experienced elder statesman type. Bill Richardson or Chris Dodd would be great.

And Tep, I've been having the same thoughts as you about the possibility of a McCain/Huckabee ticket. It would be scary, yo.


hippocampus - Feb 06, 2008 5:35:15 am PST #7831 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

welcome Esther Mary! healing ~ma to your mom! Oh, and by the way, you lucky thing: Your aunt rocks!


amych - Feb 06, 2008 5:35:51 am PST #7832 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Obama/Richardson would be just dreamy. (And would help with my one big concern on the Dem side from yesterday -- that Obama polls so poorly among latinos.)

McCain/Huck is going to happen, I'm sure of it -- especially now that it's obvious that Romney isn't going anywhere.