And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Jan 22, 2008 9:00:08 am PST #4683 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is it any different, or worse, to base a 'faith' on the writings of GLucas than LRHubbard?

Well, the distinction in my head is that LR Hubbard came up with a complete set of religious teachings (or at least tried to). It seems to me the biggest problem with creating a religion out of Jedi stuff would be the paucity of source material.


beekaytee - Jan 22, 2008 9:04:18 am PST #4684 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

creating a religion out of Jedi stuff would be the paucity of source material.

Good point by you. But, in some ways, I'm wondering if simplicity isn't adherents' friend.

I think I'll start my own religion. Bartlism! The tenants are these: Be nice, cover your mouth when you sneeze/cough, think a grateful thought several times a day and the only true evil is okra.

Apologies to okra lovers but you just aren't following 'the way.'

eta: Another tenant...'someways' is not actually a word, no matter what the misleading spell-checkers might say.


Jessica - Jan 22, 2008 9:05:29 am PST #4685 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It seems to me the biggest problem with creating a religion out of Jedi stuff would be the paucity of source material.

The Church of All Worlds has done pretty well with much less (Heinlein's Stranger In A Strange Land).

The major difference between Scientology and other hard-core fundie religions (and what makes Scientology a cult and not a religion) is it doesn't cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to become a born-again Christian. And if you decide later in life that you don't believe after all and stop going to church, Mike Huckabee won't break into your house and steal all your computers.


hippocampus - Jan 22, 2008 9:08:37 am PST #4686 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

the only true evil is okra.

::high-fives bonny and then goes back to ritualistically slapping head on desk::


beekaytee - Jan 22, 2008 9:08:51 am PST #4687 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I wonder how John Travolta and Nancy Cartwright are weathering the Cruise publicity storm. Probably a healthy dose of 'phew, glad it's not me!'


tommyrot - Jan 22, 2008 9:10:00 am PST #4688 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The Church of All Worlds has done pretty well with much less (Heinlein's Stranger In A Strange Land).

But see, that doesn't count, because... I hadn't heard of that.

I dunno - maybe it's just the mental image of these guys playing Jedi knight that irks me. Something about what kinds of robes the Masters and congregation would wear during the services....

If I ever start my own Jedi church, services will be "come as you are."


beekaytee - Jan 22, 2008 9:10:26 am PST #4689 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

ritualistically slapping head on desk

No. No. Self flagellation is not acceptable in the church of Bartlism!

Draw near and be comforted, sister Sox.


Strega - Jan 22, 2008 9:11:41 am PST #4690 of 10001

It seems to me the biggest problem with creating a religion out of Jedi stuff would be the paucity of source material.
I think that makes it easier.

I'm gonna do my best to view it as another flying spaghetti monster/invisible pink unicorn/celestial teapot. Only signficantly less entertaining.

...Actually, I could view Scientology (and, well, everything else) that way, too. Which means that Tom Cruise is some kind of Andy Kaufman-esque satirist. Hm.


beekaytee - Jan 22, 2008 9:12:35 am PST #4691 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

If I ever start my own Jedi church, services will be "come as you are."

In a way, I want to think that would be more in line with the way of the Jedi, but I think Yoda's bootcamp behavior painted a more rigorously structured doctrine.

And with that tragically geeky self-exposure, I'll withdraw to design Bartleby' vestments.


hippocampus - Jan 22, 2008 9:14:00 am PST #4692 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

Draw near and be comforted, sister Sox.

do we get a place to stuff the self obsessed, obviously crazy people? Then I will truly be comforted.

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There is, just as there was last week, no need to rebuild Flickr as an in-house app customized for our organization. Besides, your photos really aren't that good, or clear, or in focus. Calm the hell down. I will not say it again.

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